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Bus wire
Posted by D&HRR on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:54 PM

Is 12 GA to big for a main bus wire? I just switched to DCC and purchased Digitrax Extra Chief 8amp system and I wanted to get the wires installed before the system arrived. Thanks for your help.

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Posted by mfm37 on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:18 PM

Depends on how long your bus will be. Minimizing  voltage drop under load is the key to sizing a bus. Too large won't hurt. Too small will result in large drops in voltage.  If in doubt, err on the large size wire.

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Posted by D&HRR on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:53 PM

Thank you, the layout is 22x16, ill just stick with the 12GA

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Posted by NP01 on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:42 AM

I calculated that this will result in a voltage drop of 0.864V at the farthest point (11+8 = 19, say 20 feet) assuming you have the booster situated at the center of the long side of the 22x16 when running at full 8 Amp. If you run normally 16 engines (pulling load not just idling), or if your layout shape results in a longer run than my guess of 20' then you might need 12 gauge.

As an example I have a 21x6' layout with 15' max run and I am happy with an 18 gauge bus at my typical of 2-3 engines running at a time. I pass the quarter test in each corner and haven't noticed any slow spots.

#12 is pretty expensive! Use the money for something else!!

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Posted by NP01 on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:46 AM

Meant to say that 12 gauge wire will be a drop of 0.6V when all 16 engines are pulling current at the farthest spot. Check this: www.wiringfordcc.com/trakwire.htm

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Posted by D&HRR on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:53 AM

NP01

I calculated that this will result in a voltage drop of 0.864V at the farthest point (11+8 = 19, say 20 feet) assuming you have the booster situated at the center of the long side of the 22x16 when running at full 8 Amp. If you run normally 16 engines (pulling load not just idling), or if your layout shape results in a longer run than my guess of 20' then you might need 12 gauge.

As an example I have a 21x6' layout with 15' max run and I am happy with an 18 gauge bus at my typical of 2-3 engines running at a time. I pass the quarter test in each corner and haven't noticed any slow spots.

#12 is pretty expensive! Use the money for something else!!

Ive already got a bunch of 12ga, thats why I was hoping to be able to use it and not buy something else, Thanks for the info, im new to this DCC stuff.

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Posted by bearman on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:25 AM

If you already have it then use the 12 ga.

Bear "It's all about having fun."

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Posted by mfm37 on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:29 PM

Use your 12 gauge. That layout is large enough for at minimum 14 ga.

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