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Proto 2000 HO SW800 will not reset / respond

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Proto 2000 HO SW800 will not reset / respond
Posted by Yampa2003 on Monday, May 14, 2012 1:21 PM

I have a couple of Proto 2000 SW800's, that I have always run as consisted. I decided to un-multiple them the other night and then the 'fun' started!
Both units continued to run with the same ID.
I managed to do a factory reset with one of them, it gave a verbal readback, but the other one would not reset, and continued to run with the ID of the other loco. However, neither would it operate in sound mode either!
Im using a Digitrax Super Chief, and in Ops Mode.
Any ideas what the problem could be?

Thanks in advance.

Brian

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Monday, May 14, 2012 1:32 PM

 

It sounds to me like the one loco took the un-consist or MU (-) command OK but the other one didn't. CV 19 holds the consist address. Try setting CV 19 to zero through programming.

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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Posted by Train Modeler on Monday, May 14, 2012 2:22 PM

If it's  a QSI decoder I have found I have to do a reset more than once.    Can you read the address off of the programming track?

Richard

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Posted by Boise Nampa & Owyhee on Monday, May 14, 2012 2:54 PM

I am not a DCC expert even though I have had a system for six years.  I am absloutely not a sound person but I am part of a lot of conversations.

Some locos with sound take more current (output) from the programming device than a command station or a laptop computer with RS232 link up.

Find someone with a Sprog and have them attempt to reset your CV numbers.

see ya

Bob

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Posted by Train Modeler on Monday, May 14, 2012 3:12 PM

If it's a QSI decoder here is one reset option off of Tony's website:   QSI decoders use indexed CVs.

1) Place engine on main track if it is still responding to its address. If not responding you may need to use the program track.
(2) Set CV49 to 128
(3) Set CV50 to 255
(4) Set CV56 to 113
As engine resets you will hear the 3 toots. Test out the locomotive using address 3.

QSI also has some selective resets. Refer to the DCC Reference Manual for this information.

You might make sure F8 is on for sound.

Richard

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, May 14, 2012 4:20 PM

If the address seems to be unknown (try 3 as well), you can also select address 0 and use Ops Mode - but REMOVE ALL OTHER LOCOS FIRST. Ops Mode to address 0 is broadcast and will program EVERY loco on the tracks.

The wierd thing is the sequence of events. Digitrax by default uses command station consisting - nothign is modified int eh decoder. Selecting a loco or consist and then hitting MU and -/No removes it. That's really all there is to it.

 Now if you altered some OpSw settings on the DC100, it can do CV19 consisting instead. If that's ahppened, then all you should need to do to get the loco back to its own address is make sure CV19 = 0.

 If selecting one or the other loco addresses results in CN showing up on the throttle, thent he consist was never broken and the command station still thinks the locos are consisted, which would explain why using one's address makes both of them move.

 Or, if putting the second one on the track alone, and then selectign the first one's address makes the second one run, and there is no CN displayed, the address of the second oen was probably reprogrammed to be the same.

 If you do get the CN display, and no amount of MU - will remove the loco from the consist, you can always do a reset on the DCS100 which will wipe all the memory, including consists.

                                   --Randy


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Posted by Yampa2003 on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:07 AM

Thanks for all the help!

rrinker

Digitrax by default uses command station consisting -        --Randy

Doh!!

I forgot that the last time I consisted them, I used the DB150 with my SEB. Since then I'd also acquired the DCS100 so I swapped everything around, and hey presto! It all came back to life.

Thanks again.

Brian

 

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