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NCE Cab 06R question

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:14 PM

Warning: technical mumbo-jumbo

Since basically the throttle scontain a PIC or simialr microcontroller chip, the potentiometer is on an analog input, and it's not terribly hard to alter the software such that 50 is the stop, and 0-49 is reverse and 51-100 is forward.

There's probably a little more to it, to allow for a dead band and so forth so your loco doesn't creep when you thought you had the knob in the middle, bt really, all it is is a matter of programming the cpu in the throttle to treat the analog input slightly differently than normal mode.

The encoder pretty much works the same way actually, in normal mode, rotate counter-clockwise reduces the speed step until it hits 0, after which you cna spin the knob for the next 3 days and it won;t get any less than 0. Switch to yard mode, and it now allows counting back to full throttle, but if you've past 0 going counterclockwise, set the direction to reverse, and if you pass - going clockwise, set the direction to forward.

Gettng it all to talk to the command station, that's the hard part, really.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:44 AM

tstage

You can with the -04p throttles, maxman.  You just have to set the knob line to the "noon" or "0" position before pressing "1" for yard mode.  I would be quite surprised if this wasn't possible with the -06 throttles.

Tom

Yes, you are correct.  I see that now after re-reading the instructions.  I never thought that you could get a potentiometer to work that way.  Must be something else they do with the electronics.

Thanks

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:27 AM

You can with the -04p throttles, maxman.  You just have to set the knob line to the "noon" or "0" position before pressing "1" for yard mode.  I would be quite surprised if this wasn't possible with the -06 throttles.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:34 PM

According to the Tony's trains website, the original release of the 06R handsets came with an encoder.  These you should be able to set up for the yard mode operation.

Later releases of the 06R handsets are available with the potentiometers.  I don't believe that there is any way that you can set these up for yard mode operation.

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:08 PM

Bruce,

If it's like the CAB-04p throttle, you do the following:

  • Turn on the command station or Power Cab
  • Press and hold down the SELECT LOCO button on the CAB-06 throttle will plugging it into the UTP panel or right connector port of the PCP panel - The cab will enter its internal setup program.  This is indicated by a flashing status LED.
  • Press "2" to enter yard mode setup
  • Center the line on the knob (potentiometer) so that it points up to "12 noon" - This is the "0" position*
  • Press "1" for yard mode
  • If done correctly: When you rotate the knob CW from the "0" position, the locomotive runs forward; when you rotate the knob CCW from the "0" position, the locomotive runs in reverse

*On further thought, I believe the -06 throttle knobs are encoders rather than potentiometers.  They, therefore, don't have a physical "stop" that the potentiometers on the -04 throttles do.  The rest of the set up should still be the same though.

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Posted by woodone on Tuesday, April 3, 2012 5:09 PM

On pages 4 and 5 of their manual (on line) there are instructions on how to do this.

Have you tried that and it still does not work right? If If so I would give Larry a call at NCE.

I am sure he can get you up and going 

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NCE Cab 06R question
Posted by Blind Bruce on Tuesday, April 3, 2012 4:41 PM

Does anybody have a step by step method to change a cab 06R from "normal" to "yard" mode? I have studies the instructions that came with it but cannot make it happen.

73

Bruce in the Peg

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