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Anybody operate Team Digital SIC24AD using DCC Gateway

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Posted by swendt on Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:01 AM

Hi,

I have the exact same situation as the original poster and Team Digital and their Yahoo Group still have not produced an answer even after all these years.  I just wanted a simple accessory board that would allow me to turn my signal LEDs on and off with JMRI.

Have you heard of any follow up from Team Digital?  I have been emailing them since January and they haven't replied once!

Scott

 

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 7:06 PM

 Wow, that was a year ago. Yes, I know it can work as a simple input/output board, but I don;t think the original poster is using Loconet, at least not with JMRI.

 However, the whole ordeal shows why I think it is MUCH better to use a computer for the actual signal logic, the CVs to configure the logic internally in the boards that do that are SO complicated and there are only limited options, whatever they could think of to include and fit within the realm of CVs. While this covers probably most options you'd ever need, it's still complicated and when you DO need that extra bit of logic. Dumb I/O cards, which are cheap, and the infinite flexibility of JMRI for the logic.

                      --Randy


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Posted by RHelmOD on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 12:05 PM

Guys: The SIC24AD can be configured to be just an In/out board to be used with JMRI. That is what I am working on. I dont have mine programmed yet but I think it is setup 3 that you use according to Team Digital. There is also a Team Digital Yahoogroups.com chat list that you can ask questions on. So far, I am having more trouble understanding the JMRI panel programming. I want to be able to throw a turnout with the push button switch or with the Digitrax throttle both if at all possible.

Bob

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Posted by SleeperN06 on Friday, October 8, 2010 11:44 PM

Thanks, you see why I’m scratching my head. I read the manual a 100 times and I still don’t understand it. There’s something in there about adding the 101 to the address or something and I tried that without any luck.

The board is really designed for LocoNet. I do have DecoderPro and NCE USB adapter, but that’s another nightmare and I don’t even want to go there at the moment.

I’m going to have to wait until Monday when I hear back from Team Digital.

Thanks, JohnnyB
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Posted by rrinker on Friday, October 8, 2010 11:05 PM

 I don't have one, just reading the manual.

 What address did you give the board? If you didn;t change it,t he default is 101. That means output #1 is Accessory address 101, Output #2 is 102, etc. So you would use 102 to contsol output #2.

 The logic cell stuff is for implementing actual signal and detection logic - things like "If Block 5 is occupied then set signal 2 to red" so if you want to simply turn a light on and off you probably want to reset that stuff or you may have dependencies on other inputs or outputs that you don't have hooked up.

 I would recommend getting DecoderPro and an interface for your system - if you have the PH-Pro all you need is a serial cable to connect your PC to the command station. On the Team Digital site they have decoder definition files for the SIC24AD which will probably make programmign it MUCH easier than trying to go through those steps and use various switch addresses.

 ANd wow is that documentation confusing. Gimme a simple board that just has an address for each otuput and I'll do the logic in a computer program like JMRI - it's easier!

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Posted by SleeperN06 on Friday, October 8, 2010 10:31 PM

rrinker

 If you really have it set up like Setup #3 (the second part, for 24 general inputs/outputs), then each output has a switch address - you would simply use your throttle like you would use it to operate a turnout, selecting the address of the port on the SIC24 you are trying to turn on and switch it from normal (closed) to reverse (thrown).

 If you are trying to light up LEDs - you might have it backwards which is why it isn't going on when you think it should.

                           --Randy

Randy, wow I was about to give up on anybody having one of these.

My problem is What Address do I use. There are 7 CVs per output and 3 addresses.

Here is what I got for just output #2.

All of these are just for Logic Cell 2, which is output 2

CV#57, Logic Cell 2 – Element A Address, 107

CV#58, Logic Cell 2 – Element A Type, 96

CV#59, Logic Cell 2 – Element B Address, 101

CV#60, Logic Cell 2 – Element B Type, 160

CV#61, Logic Cell 2 – Element C Address, 0

CV#62, Logic Cell 2 – Element C Type, 0

CV#63, Logic Cell 2 – Output Control, 0

What the heck do I plug into the NCE Throttle?

When I pick “Select Accy” on the throttle, its asks for a Control ACC Number and then gives me the option of “1 for ON” and “2 for OFF” I just don’t know what to plug in.

Thanks, JohnnyB
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Posted by rrinker on Friday, October 8, 2010 7:22 PM

 If you really have it set up like Setup #3 (the second part, for 24 general inputs/outputs), then each output has a switch address - you would simply use your throttle like you would use it to operate a turnout, selecting the address of the port on the SIC24 you are trying to turn on and switch it from normal (closed) to reverse (thrown).

 If you are trying to light up LEDs - you might have it backwards which is why it isn't going on when you think it should.

                           --Randy

 


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Anybody operate Team Digital SIC24AD using DCC Gateway
Posted by SleeperN06 on Friday, October 8, 2010 6:21 PM

I believe my SIC24AD is programmed correctly for Setup #3 with the help of Team Digital, but I can’t for the life of me figure out the correct logic to do a simple one lamp turn on.  I sent Team Digital an email, but its taking so long with just a bit of info here and there. Since it Friday night I moght not get word back untill next week at this point.

All I want to do at the moment is just turn on say one lamp on output 2 from my NCE  PowerCab just so I can see how it’s done.

Can anybody tell me how to do that?

Thanks, JohnnyB

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