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Newbie needs wiring help
Posted by kasskaboose on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:52 PM

I finished the benchwork, backdrop, and road- and sub- roadbed for my HO layout.  The sub road-bed is 2" pink styrofoam resting on 1x4s every two feet.  I even started laying down (not gluing) some of the mainline code 83 ME track.  The layout is 12x7 around-the-room. 

Now to make things run!  Can anyone pls give me advice, lessons learned, and useful (free) wiring resources?  DCC looks cool, but I thought to start w/ DC.  I have a 120V Atheran transformer.  Kindly avoid anything too technical.

Here are my questions:

1. What types of things to get and where?  I have electricians' tape, needle nose pliers, wiring strippers, and cutters.

2.  What are useful books to get on wiring?

3.  How to prepare the foam for the wiring?

4. Anything else to consider?

5.  About how many outlets would I need to use?

V/R,

Lee

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Posted by Harris Creek Central on Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:39 PM

I started my layout with DC..  My layout takes up most of the 14x26ft area.  The plan is  a dogbone  shaped in the form of the letter "C".   I ran two individual tracks in order to have two seperate systems..   I blocked these two so I have an East and West.  My third track encircles a farming area at the East end of the layout, and comes around the sawmill area on the West end.  This creates the neccesity of a reverse loop on each end.  The Farm circle creates one block, The sawmill area creates a western block.  Total blocks thus far SIX.  I then have five sidings all on individual blocks, and my main yard is yet another block. Now totalling 12 blocks.  This is a tri-level  layout.  So try to visualize track A at 42" elevation, track B about  48" and the top farm and logging loop at about 52 inches. I ran DC trains on this system for many years.

When I added my Digitrax DB100 all I had to do was hook the system into what I already have.  I added a DB 200 for a booster pack which controls my sidings and the main yard.  NOW if I have a short somewhere in the system, all I have to do is throw all the switches to "off", and then try them one at a time until the DCC system starts to beep..  I then know just which area to begin searching for whatever went astray.

I trust this gives you one persons opinion for what it is worth.  I would not consider it necessary to go all out with DCC.   I found no difficulty in adding it to my DC system.

Harris Creek Central http://www.freewebs.com/harriscreekcentral/

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Friday, October 3, 2008 1:33 PM
 kasskaboose wrote:
The layout is 12x7 around-the-room. 

5.  About how many outlets would I need to use?

I presume you mean feeders to the track.  Also assuming there is a simple loop on the layout, just connecting the power supply to the track in one place - at worst a train would be 19 feet from power.  Adding a second set of feeders would reduce that to 10 feet.  Adding a total of four feeders (one in the center of each side), would make a train no more than 5 feet from power.  Eight equally spaced feeders is probably overkill at 2.5 feet from power.  (loop distance/number feeders)= distance between feeders/2 = max distance from train to power.

This is all assuming no gaps in the rails. If you start gapping the rails for multiple train operation all of this changes.   And as someone else pointed out if you are planning on multi-train operation it would be MUCH easier to just to use DCC from the beginning.

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Posted by dadret on Saturday, October 4, 2008 6:53 AM
DCC wiring is much simplier than DC although it tends to be more expenisve.  Kalmbach has several good books on wiring, both DC and DCC.
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Posted by rickb326 on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 7:59 AM

I had a hard time making the decision whether or not to use dcc. At first all of the different topics may scare you away from dcc, but after deciding to use the system it was definately the best choice.

On my own layout I soldered feeder wires every 36 inches and the utilized what they refer to as suitcase connectors to connect the feeders to the track bus. One thing that I did learn through the process of setting up my own wiring is that it is best to solder your wires underneath the track in the area of the railjoiners wherever possible.

Other that that a lot of my dcc experience thus far has been lessons learned from trial and error. You'll find that a lot of areas of this hobby are also trial and error. The bottom line though is to have fun.

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