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auto reverse
Posted by 3155944 on Sunday, September 7, 2008 4:03 PM

I istalled a digi trax auto reverse last winter. It worked well. I didnt get to my trains from april till now. the AR has quit. The relay  does work but no matter where I set the trimmer it will not reverse.This doesnt seem very good.

Which is the most reliable AR

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Sunday, September 7, 2008 5:43 PM
Right off hand, I don't have a specific manufacturer in mind.  Try to find one that does not use a relay, but is all solid state.  Most of the DCC manufacturers make some sort of reverser, and as far as I know, they are all compatable with DCC track and power.  Check through their web sites.

Elmer.

The above is my opinion, from an active and experienced Model Railroader in N scale and HO since 1961.

(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, September 7, 2008 8:07 PM

I've got an earlier model of the Tony's reverser, and I'll agree with David that it's a very good unit.

But, I'm not sure I'd give up on the AR just yet.  If you take everything else off the tracks, can you get the reverser to throw back and forth by simply using a wire to jump the gap at each end?

If you haven't run the trains since April, what's the condition of your track and locomotive wheels?

Are you by any chance running a DC loco as Engine Zero to test this?  DCC Auto-reversers won't work with DC locos.

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Sunday, September 7, 2008 9:05 PM
 davidmbedard wrote:

Tony's PSX-AR

David B

Agreed.  They are all electronic and have no relays to go bad.

 

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, September 8, 2008 1:13 PM

 3155944 wrote:
 ...  The relay does work ...
How do you know this?

but no matter where I set the trimmer it will not reverse.
So the train runs fine on the "main", but on entering or exiting the "reversing" section (depending on which way the "normal" setting of the AR is) the train shorts out the power supply?

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Posted by cacole on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 9:02 AM
Double check and make sure both rails on both ends of the reverse section are thoroughly insulated so the reverse section is totally isolated from the rest of the layout.  If you have made any changes at all to your track or electrical wiring, you may have inadvertently removed an insulated rail joiner or miswired the AR module.
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Posted by 3155944 on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 8:34 PM
I checked Potter brumfield specs for the solenoid pins and id a 12volt check
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:08 AM

Try this.  You may need someone else to help, depending on where the AR is located relative to your loop tracks.

Take all the trains off the loop, including from any sidings that come off the loop, too.  Power up the layout, and put an engine somewhere on the main.  Turn on the headlights, but leave it sitting there.

Take a piece of wire or a cliplead and jumper over just one of the insulated joiners (or gaps, if you don't have joiners.)  Then remove the jumper and put it across the break at the other end of the loop.  While you do this, listen closely to the AR.  You should hear a click, maybe or maybe not the first time, but certainly the second.  If it does click, that indicates that the sensing circuitry is working correctly.  Also note what happens to the headlight on that engine on the main.  Does it go out at any point?

Now, move the engine somewhere on the loop, just not at the ends.  Do the test again.  What happens to the headlight now?

Let us know the results.  This should give some kind of clue what's going on here.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:18 PM
 3155944 wrote:
I checked Potter brumfield specs for the solenoid pins and id a 12volt check
So you apply 12 volts to the relay and can hear it click?  Or you are checking the relay output (while it is not connected to the track) and see a polarity reversal on a meter?

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