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Train Control Systems Decoders

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Train Control Systems Decoders
Posted by Artur on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 9:36 PM

Hi guys, is anyone familiar with Train Control Systems? How is the quality and reliability of their decoders, would you recommend them?

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Posted by nbrodar on Wednesday, July 9, 2008 10:13 PM

Absolutely.   I use TCS decoders exclusively.  The best part is the one year "goof poof" guarantee.  Even if you fry it, TCS will replace the decoder.  The documentation and support is also first rate.

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Posted by Randall_Roberts on Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:07 AM

Prior to the introduction of the Digitrax DZ125, the TCS M1 was the smallest decoder readily available here in the US.  I was very happy with the ones that I installed.  And as has already been said, you can't go wrong with their "goof-proof" warranty.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:26 AM

I've had one problem with the TCS decoders I've installed.  When I run one of them in a consist, it has to go into the consist in the forward direction.  I've tried many times to put one into a consist in the reverse direction, but it never works.  The engine always wants to run in the opposite direction of the consist when I do that.

I have two TCS-equipped engines, and they both do this.  Fortunately, they are on different types of engines that I never consist together, so I can put my Digitrax-equipped engines into the consist in reverse (no problem there) and run the TCS guys forward.

I'm using a Lenz DCC system, which may or may not explain why this doesn't work.  It's the only DCC system I've got, though, so I've never tried this anywhere else.

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Posted by Randall_Roberts on Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:10 AM

MisterBeasley;

Are you saying that you can't reverse motor direction by changing CV 29?  The TCS decoder programming manual says:

To reverse the engine direction when running in forward:
• Select CV 29.
• If CV 29 = 2, add 1 and enter 3.
• If CV 29 = 6, add 1 and enter 7.
• If CV 29 = 34, add 1 and enter 35.
• If CV 29 = 38, add 1 and enter 39.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:31 PM

No, this problem only happens when running the TCS-equipped engine in a consist, and only if it is entered into the consist in the reverse direction.  That is, when the consist is told to go forward, this engine should go backwards because it's facing the other direction.

As I recall, if I change CV29, then the engine will always go in reverse when commanded to go forward, not just when it's in a consist.  The purpose of CV 29 is to allow you to get the engine going in the right direction if it's wired backwards.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:43 PM
Maybe try setting CV 19 to the consist address + 128 for the backwards facing engine.  That should get things going in the right direction.  I have done this with TCS and Digitrax decoders on a Digitrax system.  Not really sure how Lenz works. 

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Posted by Artur on Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:35 PM
Thanks guys, I will be picking up a few TCS decoders.
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Posted by locoi1sa on Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:04 PM

  MrBeasly

  Some of the older TCS decoders had the consist bug. A poster on another site found an easy fix. After setting up the consist just cycle the power to the decoder for a second. I usualy tip one side of the loco and then it runs in cosist the direction you set it up to. I have 2 in a pair of RS1 locos that do it. Not bad having 2 out of 50 with the glitch.

     Pete

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Posted by iomtt on Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:41 PM
All  but  the  drop  in  decoders i  use are  TCS M1 and has  been  said  their  goof  proof  policy  is  to be  commended, first class decoder ........  off  to  order another  10  to  complete   conversion  of  my locos to  dcc.
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Posted by hickstmj on Friday, July 11, 2008 10:38 AM
 davidmbedard wrote:

Top notch decoders.  They are the Anti-MRC.  So beware, never, ever allow an MRC decoder come in contact with a TCS decoder....

David B 

What do you mean by "come in contact with"?

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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Friday, July 11, 2008 12:10 PM
 hickstmj wrote:
 davidmbedard wrote:

Top notch decoders.  They are the Anti-MRC.  So beware, never, ever allow an MRC decoder come in contact with a TCS decoder....

David B 

What do you mean by "come in contact with"?

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Posted by Rotorranch on Friday, July 11, 2008 12:27 PM
 hickstmj wrote:
 davidmbedard wrote:

Top notch decoders.  They are the Anti-MRC.  So beware, never, ever allow an MRC decoder come in contact with a TCS decoder....

David B 

What do you mean by "come in contact with"?

If the two ever come in contact with each other, ie in the same place and time, the space/ time continuum will crack, leading to the demise of the universe as we know it.

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Posted by AusiBrian on Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:01 PM

This is all too sad. I have just orderd a dozen MRC decoders. Should have read up on the Forum before. 

 

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Posted by iomtt on Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:52 PM
 AusiBrian wrote:

This is all too sad. I have just orderd a dozen MRC decoders. Should have read up on the Forum before. 

 

Hi AusiBrian,

I is aad  news   but  there may be  light  at  the end  of  the tunnel   contact  the  seller and  ask if they can  be  returned  you  paying  the  return postage  of  course for  an  alternative  decoder they  have in stock.

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