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Athearn GP7

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Athearn GP7
Posted by ndbprr on Sunday, March 10, 2024 11:55 AM

Before I tear into the guts engine front is long hood end. Reverse direction and short hood headlight is intermitent.  Loose connection?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, March 10, 2024 12:09 PM

What vintage Athearn?  Is this a DC or DCC engine?  If these are old engines with incandescent bulbs, save yourself another job by replacing them with LEDs while you're in there.

Intermittent bulbs are almost always a loose connection.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by ndbprr on Sunday, March 10, 2024 6:16 PM

NCE dcc. Factory decoder.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 3:08 PM

I assume you've changed the lighting CVs then, since normally the default decoder setting is the headlight is only on in the direction of travel. Maybe check the CVs re lighting options. Maybe the intensity is set too low so the light is just barely coming on then dropping out or something.

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Posted by ndbprr on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 5:55 PM

did a factory reset.  then the pronlem showed up.

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 6:06 PM

If the light is truly intermittent, just remove the shell and examine the wiring connections.

It is interesting that the lighting apparently worked fine until you did a reset to factory defaults. Not sure if that offers any clue.

What do you have in mind when you say "tear into the guts"? That sounds somewhat radical at this point.

Rich

 

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, March 15, 2024 1:59 PM

If by intermittent you mean when the engine is in reverse the rear light goes off and on sort of randomly (it normally would be off when going forward) then I agree you should take the shell off (not hard to do) and just look. It's possible a wire to the rear light has come loose - maybe it's touching the connection but isn't soldered in place anymore, so sometimes loses connection. You could also try another bulb or LED by touching the leads to the lightboard connections and see if that new light works. If so, it's unlikely to be a problem with the decoder or lightboard.

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, March 15, 2024 2:38 PM

Actually the problem was my test track had gotten dirty and power was cutting out.  The engine had enough momentum that it would start up before stopping completely. The forward headlight was not visible from where I was set up so I didn't know it was both ends.  Learning the vaguries of DCC is a long curve.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, March 15, 2024 3:01 PM

Oh yeah.

Glad you solved your problem.

Rich

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Posted by PC101 on Tuesday, March 19, 2024 7:21 AM

ndbprr

Actually the problem was my test track had gotten dirty and power was cutting out.  The engine had enough momentum that it would start up before stopping completely. The forward headlight was not visible from where I was set up so I didn't know it was both ends.  Learning the vaguries of DCC is a long curve.

 

To see the front/rear lights I have a mirror angled at each end of my test track.

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