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What color LED for a steam locomotive?

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What color LED for a steam locomotive?
Posted by Morpar on Monday, December 18, 2023 8:03 PM

I want to replace the incandescent headlight bulb in a steam locomotive with an LED when I add a decoder. What color LED should I look for to simulate the look of an incandescent bulb from the steam era? I think the warm white 0402 LEDs I have are still too white for a steam loco, and all of the LEDs which put out an appropriate color of light look orange to me. What (and where) should I be looking for?

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Posted by Remeyer53 on Tuesday, December 19, 2023 8:28 AM

You can make the LED yellower or oranger by coloring the lens with a yellow or orange highlighter. Try it in steps so as not to over do it.

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, December 19, 2023 8:47 AM

Mopar,

Which steam locomotive are you adding an LED to - i.e. manufacturer/model?

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Posted by Morpar on Tuesday, December 19, 2023 10:18 AM

I have a couple in mind. There are a couple of Rivarossi units (FEF-3 and Allegheny), an AHM 0-8-0 for the yard, and a couple of Bowser locos sometime in the future. 

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, December 19, 2023 10:28 AM

I have used Golden White LEDs, either a 3mm or a surface mount (SMD), depending upon the circumstances.

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Posted by tstage on Tuesday, December 19, 2023 11:08 AM

Since they are plastic, Mopar, and the bulb is most likely located inside the smokebox, I would just go with 3mm warm-white LEDs.  I like the Miniatronics "yeloglo" LEDs (PN: 12-310-05 or 12-310-10), as they emit a slightly yellowish hue that nicely mimics the brass headlights.

The SMD LEDs I usually reserve for my brass locomotive installations because the "bulb" is much more visible inside the headlamp.  This what a 0603 warm LED looks like in a NJCB 0-10-0 switcher:

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, December 19, 2023 9:50 PM

Hi Morpar,

Another way to soften the white is to use higher value resistors. Instead of the common 1K resistor, start with 5K and work up from there. I have used resistors as high as 30K to get an LED to look like a kerosene lamp or a very early lightbulb.

Resistors are cheap on eBay so it doesn't cost much to get a few different values to play with. 

I would still use a warm white LED.

Cheers!!

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Posted by tstage on Wednesday, December 20, 2023 9:03 AM

Dave's post is spot-on.  I used 10K resistors on my brass locomotives that were mounted with 0603 LEDs.  The light from them is softer than how my above photo portrays them.

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, December 20, 2023 9:14 AM

tstage

Dave's post is spot-on.  I used 10K resistors on my brass locomotives that were mounted with 0603 LEDs.  The light from them is softer than how my above photo portrays them.

Tom

 

Yep. I've done that with 3K and 4K resistors.

Rich

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