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Proto 2000 GP30 decoder selection

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Proto 2000 GP30 decoder selection
Posted by ndbprr on Monday, June 6, 2022 4:15 PM

Finally getting around to installing decoders in a pair of old PRR GP30s still new in the box.  They have 8 pin decoder sockets. l am thinking sound in one and just an 8 pin decoder in the other.  Any thoughts or choices I should  consider?

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, June 6, 2022 5:47 PM

Take a look at the TCS website.

There are detailed instructions for the installation of a sound decoder in a Proto 2000 GP30 complete with photos. TCS also has a non-sound decoder for the Proto 2000 GP30.

Rich

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Posted by wrench567 on Monday, June 6, 2022 7:15 PM

   If they are the old P2K then they are equipped with light bulbs and would benefit with LEDs. I would suggest either a decoder buddy mini and 21 pin decoder in both. ESU, Soundtraxx, and TCS make nice decoders in that form factor.

    Pete.

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Posted by OldEngineman on Monday, June 6, 2022 9:54 PM

The Proto 2000 GP30 has an female 8-pin harness that plugs into the light board which resides underneath. There are no wire connections to this board, everything is "through the harness".

Here's a pic, with the decoder I used (Soundtraxx MC1H102P8) and some pre-wired LEDs:

Here's the decoder in place, again underneath the 8-pin harness, with the LEDs wired in, ready for the shell to go back on. (click to enlarge)

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, June 6, 2022 11:43 PM

There are some choices out there. I decided to hard-wire a Loksound 5 and ESU cube speaker in mine. I had to file a little off the weight to get clearance for that particular speaker. Since then I have used Scale Sound Systems speakers* with remarkable results.

 BnO_GP30-6939-DCC by Edmund, on Flickr

One thing to keep in mind is that if you choose a sound file for an EMD 567 D3 prime mover you may quickly tire of the turbocharger whine. It can be quide predominant.

Tsunami-2 allows you several choices including 2 or 3 non-turbo versions on the same decoder. For ESU you can always download a new sound project. Just something to keep in mind. I have my GP30s running with a very low volume on the PM and the whine is only perceptable if you are nearby.

Good  Luck, Ed

* They may not offer the GP30. Inquire first.

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Posted by wrench567 on Tuesday, June 7, 2022 7:19 AM

  I remember those now. Have a GP7 that I put a Loksound version 3.5 with a pair of small round speakers in. Many years ago. If I remember correctly you have to change the bulbs because you end up removing the resistors when you remove the board.

      Pete.

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, June 7, 2022 8:54 AM

I just installed a TCS WowSound decoder in an old Proto SD-9, so far seems to be working out quite well. I ended up removing the rear weight to make room for a speaker and enclosure - the engine is not going to pulling long trains by itself, so any loss of pulling power isn't really an issue.

A nice thing about the WowSound I noticed is they have an option to make a two-motor sound, like you would use in say an EMD E-unit. That might be an option if you're going to have your sound and non-sound GP-30s running together most of the time, as it will sound more like two sound locos.

Stix

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