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Wiring an MRC Power Station 8 power booster into an NCE CS02 DCC system

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, December 23, 2021 9:47 AM

I have the NCE PH-Pro 5 amp starter system which is a command station/5 amp booster in one box. When I decided to add a second 5 amp booster to divide my large layout into a series of power districts and reversing sections, I purchased the DB5. That makes perfect sense since the integral booster on the PH-Pro is, in effect, a smart booster. So, there was no requirement to add an SB5, nor would an SB5 be appropriate instead of a DB5, since an SB5 would have to be configured as a slave only booster to my command station.

Since the CS02 is a command station, a DB5 is an appropriate booster. The DB5 is a "dumb" booster, and it takes its commands from the CS02. That's why an SB5 is not used with the CS02 unless it is configure as a "slave". At least that is my understanding.

As I understand it, NCE introduced the SB5, a 5 amp booster, as an upgrade to the Power Cab to provide more power. If you want to add a second booster to the upgraded Power Cab, then you would choose the DB5 since you already have a smart booster, the SB5.

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Posted by CSX Robert on Thursday, December 23, 2021 11:17 AM

richhotrain

I have the NCE PH-Pro 5 amp starter system which is a command station/5 amp booster in one box. When I decided to add a second 5 amp booster to divide my large layout into a series of power districts and reversing sections, I purchased the DB5. That makes perfect sense since the integral booster on the PH-Pro is, in effect, a smart booster. So, there was no requirement to add an SB5, nor would an SB5 be appropriate instead of a DB5, since an SB5 would have to be configured as a slave only booster to my command station.

Since the CS02 is a command station, a DB5 is an appropriate booster. The DB5 is a "dumb" booster, and it takes its commands from the CS02. That's why an SB5 is not used with the CS02 unless it is configure as a "slave". At least that is my understanding.

As I understand it, NCE introduced the SB5, a 5 amp booster, as an upgrade to the Power Cab to provide more power. If you want to add a second booster to the upgraded Power Cab, then you would choose the DB5 since you already have a smart booster, the SB5.

Rich

 

 

All true, it's too bad NCE isn't clear about that in their documentation.

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Posted by TheK4Kid on Thursday, December 23, 2021 7:45 PM

Hooked up the SB5 today, everything is up and running again!

Less than 5 minutes to hook it up!

Works both with my NCE Power cabs and my NCE Pro cabs.

All functions work!

I don't need the CS02 at all, returning it.

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, December 23, 2021 8:57 PM

Yep.  When hooked up to the SB5, your Power Cab essentially turns into a ProCab throttle because the command station/booster of the Power Cab is automatically overrided by the SB5.  Now you can unplug and plug your Power Cab w/o the layout shutting down.

Anyhow, glad to hear it's working well for you.  Did you end up calling NCE today?

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, December 24, 2021 6:49 AM

One thing that I still wonder about is why NCE created the CS02. It does have a powered programming track, but no track power booster or power supply. What's the point?

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Posted by CSX Robert on Friday, December 24, 2021 10:02 AM

It could be useful if you are switching from another brand and already have boosters, or if you have a Power Cab + Smartbooster and want the increased capabilities of the CS02 over the Smartbooster.

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Posted by tstage on Friday, December 24, 2021 11:09 AM

Other than the dedicated programming track output and RS232 port, I don't see any other "increased capabilities" over the Power Cab/SB5 combo.  My NCE USB module works really well with Decoder Pro on my laptop.  I also like the flexibility of being able to use my Power Cab at my workbench to program decoders.

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Posted by CSX Robert on Friday, December 24, 2021 11:27 AM

tstage

Other than the dedicated programming track output and RS232 port, I don't see any other "increased capabilities" over the Power Cab/SB5 combo.  My NCE USB module works really well with Decoder Pro on my laptop.  I also like the flexibility of being able to use my Power Cab at my workbench to program decoders.

Tom

 

SB5 -

Maximum number of cabs: 6

Maximum number of simultaneous trains: 18

Maximum number of advanced consists: 16

CS02 -

Maximum number of cabs: 63

Maximum number of simultaneous trains: 250

Maximum number of advanced consists: 127

 

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Posted by tstage on Friday, December 24, 2021 11:31 AM

Thanks, Robert.  Those would definitely be important pluses on a sizable layout.  For a small-to-medium layout?  Probably not as much - at least, IMO.

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