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KEEP ALIVE INSTALLATION IN EXISTING DCC/SOUND DECODER SYSTEMS

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KEEP ALIVE INSTALLATION IN EXISTING DCC/SOUND DECODER SYSTEMS
Posted by Lehigh Willie on Saturday, July 10, 2021 11:50 AM

I have two, small HO Scale steam engines (4-4-0 and 4-6-0 Bachman Spectrum models with TSU-750 Sound Decoders) which consistntly sputter and re-boot on my small, tight, switching layout - and that's after cleaning the track and the pick-up wheels

So I want to shoe-horn in a small "keep alive", such as a TCS KA3 or TCS KA1, in the tenders with the decoders and speakers.  The decoders have a small capacitor attached which I assume (but am guessing without knowledge) is there to maintain the sound, not the motor.   And, of course, the decoder is wrapped in its plastic rain-coat.

So can someone please tell me where and how to attach a new system KA (sound AND motor AND lights)?  I have never tried this before, but I am aware that the KA may have to ride on top of the tender!

Thanks,

Lehigh Willie III

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, July 10, 2021 12:08 PM

IIRC, you want to connect the keep-alive to the purple & the black/white striped wires.  I would confer first with the manuals for both from the TCS & Soundtraxx websites.  It is available for download from TCS and should be from Soundtraxx.

Tom

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, July 10, 2021 12:51 PM

You will be well-rewarded when you use keep-alive.

Here is a wiring diagram for adding a "keep alive" to a TSU-750:

https://soundtraxx.com/content/Reference/Documentation/Application-Notes/currentkeeper_tsu750.pdf

 

The TCS "keep alive" should drop right in:  blue to blue, and black with white trace (of the Keep Alive) to green with yellow trace (of the decoder).

And, yes, the small capacitor on the board is for the sound, only.

 

You should also read this excellent article:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/markgurries/home/decoders/keep-alive-compatibility 

 

Ed

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, July 10, 2021 1:05 PM

Yikes, that would have made me give up DCC, but what I have mostly are Bachmann sound values which start up just where they left off if something happens. Don't know if your decoder can be programed that way.

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Posted by Lehigh Willie on Sunday, July 11, 2021 11:31 AM

Thanks, Ed.  Your suggestions and info are very helpful

 

Lehigh Willie

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Posted by Lehigh Willie on Sunday, July 11, 2021 11:32 AM
Tom - Thanks for your help
EdwardjIII

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