I became a fan of the New York Giants in 1963. In the ensuing near quarter of a century I saw and learned far more about the various ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory than Philadelphians can likely conceive.
maxmanA "choke" is the new name for what a Philadelphia sports team does during the season.
The Eagles did not choke, rather they engineered the end of the game to allow Washington into the playoffs rather then the Giants, effectively beating the Giants again. Then they outmaneuvered the Giants during the draft. Pretty well played, actually.
Now as for the Flyers...
Fly Eagles Fly
Well I've been a Vikings fan since the 1960's so I know all about that type of "choke".
BillwizThe Eagles did not choke, rather they engineered the end of the game to allow Washington into the playoffs rather then the Giants, effectively beating the Giants again. Then they outmaneuvered the Giants during the draft. Pretty well played, actually. Now as for the Flyers...
Yes they did. And a couple guys lost their jobs over it.
And so far as "outmaneuvering" goes, time will tell about that. The last big time they "outmaneuvered" they called that "Wentz". And he "wentzed" somewhere else. And because they all said he was "broken", the Beagles got very little in return.
And it is not only the Beagles. We've got the Flyers, the Filthys, and probably the Sixers. But there is always an excuse. They call it the "process".
maxmanYes they did. And a couple guys lost their jobs over it. And so far as "outmaneuvering" goes, time will tell about that. The last big time they "outmaneuvered" they called that "Wentz". And he "wentzed" somewhere else. And because they all said he was "broken", the Beagles got very little in return. And it is not only the Beagles. We've got the Flyers, the Filthys, and probably the Sixers. But there is always an excuse. They call it the "process".
Please dont bring facts into Philadelphia sports. We cannot handle those. And besides, we trust the "process" (until it hits us in the face).
btw, are you from the Philly area?
As a friend of mine once said, sometimes a team just has a superior 'will to lose' that can't be overcome no matter how hard the other team tries to let them win.
BillwizPlease dont bring facts into Philadelphia sports. We cannot handle those. And besides, we trust the "process" (until it hits us in the face). btw, are you from the Philly area?
Not originally. About 52 years' worth.
Prior to that from Massachusetts. There it was the Red Sox.
wjstix As a friend of mine once said, sometimes a team just has a superior 'will to lose' that can't be overcome no matter how hard the other team tries to let them win.
Philadelphias motto
So, if you don't mind me asking...is it true Philadelphia fans are as tough / bad as they say? I recall the story of the Philadelphia A's Gus Zernial breaking his collarbone on an outfield play in 1954, after it was announced the A's were moving to Kansas City the next year. When asked how he felt as he lay in extreme pain in the grass knowing most likely his season was over, he supposedly said all he thought was "thank God I don't have to play in Philadelphia anymore".
Yeah, but remember what was supposedly written on W.C.Field's tombstone... too bad it turns out, as with so many of these things, not to be true.
wjstix.is it true Philadelphia fans are as tough / bad as they say?
Don't know. You would have to ask a true Philadelphia fan. I do know that Eagles fans threw frozen snowballs at Santa one year.
And they actually had a jail and court set up at the old stadium to deal with the drunk and disorderly. However, they claimed that most of those arrested were from the surrounding area.
I don't believe that they ever booed an injured player. Probably all tired out from booing the uninjured Eagles players.
wjstixSo, if you don't mind me asking...is it true Philadelphia fans are as tough / bad as they say? I recall the story of the Philadelphia A's Gus Zernial breaking his collarbone on an outfield play in 1954, after it was announced the A's were moving to Kansas City the next year. When asked how he felt as he lay in extreme pain in the grass knowing most likely his season was over, he supposedly said all he thought was "thank God I don't have to play in Philadelphia anymore".
Before I switched to DCC, I met a DCC system rep at a train show. I mentioned how difficult it seemed to be, but he said we make it as difficult as we want. We can simply program, or get into the real deep programming. Not sure what the OP has experienced but hopefully you can simplify your programming and enjoy your system.
Now, back to Philly Sports. Yes, Philly is that tough. If you play with heart, you are loved. If you short arm a catch, play scared, do not play with heart, or any other cliche, you will be crucified. We love our heroes but if you even slightly turn, we will eat you alive. Wentz might well be an incredibly talented athlete, but he did not get Philly and after last season, the city turned on him. You can lose but if you play your heart out, we will love you. You can win but if you win without caring about us...