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Sound bug default wrong, hope the file I need is on there, need to change CV's

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Sound bug default wrong, hope the file I need is on there, need to change CV's
Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 5:55 PM

Well I finally have to change CV's on my Digitrax system. I have a program only track but a bit confused on sequence. Need to change CV 60 to 6 or 7. It came with diesel sound but was suposed to come with steam, hope file is accually there. Decoder was brand new in packaging and was put in Proto 2000 0-6-0.

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 9:28 PM

 WHich sound bug?

The old SFX004 has 2 sounds, generic steam and generic diesel. CV60=0 is for steam, CV60=1 is for diesel.

The current SFX006 has a bunch of sounds preinstalled (it has a lot more memory). CV60=6 is a big steam loco (UP3985 - which will sound riduclous on a little 0-6-0) or CV60=7 which is a K27 narrow guage loco. There are probably better choices available but then you need a PR3 or PR4 to load the sounds int eh decoder. 

 CV60 won't conflict with a CV on the Digitrax motor decoder, so you cna just set it at any time. Put the loco n the program track and hit the Program button to get to Pg or Pd (PHYS or Dir on a Zephyr). If using a DT throttle, turn the left knob to dial up 60, turn the right knob to dial up 6 or 7, and hit enter. On a Zephyr, hit CV, key in 60, hit CV-RD to get the current value, key in the new value (6 or 7) and hit CV-WR to write it.

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(see, a cheat sheet of how to program on Digitrax could fit on a label on the back of the throttle, too.... )


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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:46 AM

Thanks again, made cheet sheet for changing loco numbers, looks the same except for CV instead of hitting loco. Don't know why the instructions are so convoluted. On a side note my main title reads something now that I did not write, weird but fixing now.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:53 AM

Yes I could have  bought a better sound system but I am just learning this part of the hobby. You want a room size layout built with scenery in 3 months, no problem. Electronics or math, you are lucky I even try, LOL.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 12:30 PM

 Good, you can come over and get my layout up in 3 months, and I'll do all your decoders. Big Smile

If you have or know someone with a PR3/PR4, there are probably better sounds to load. You won't have to remove the decoder. Something is left out to cram 8 different sets of sounds in there, where a single good one can use nearly all the available memory. So you likely can get a significant improvement for no cost just by using a different sound project from the Sound Depot.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 1:58 PM

rrinker

 Good, you can come over and get my layout up in 3 months, and I'll do all your decoders. Big Smile

If you have or know someone with a PR3/PR4, there are probably better sounds to load. You won't have to remove the decoder. Something is left out to cram 8 different sets of sounds in there, where a single good one can use nearly all the available memory. So you likely can get a significant improvement for no cost just by using a different sound project from the Sound Depot.

                                      --Randy

 

 

Used to live in Baltimore and it would have been doable but on west coast now.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 2:21 PM

rrinker
Something is left out to cram 8 different sets of sounds in there, where a single good one can use nearly all the available memory. So you likely can get a significant improvement for no cost just by using a different sound project from the Sound Depot.

Has anyone here actually run the output through something like Audacity to assess its 'goodness'?

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:43 PM

Also now that I am messing with cv's, it says master volume max is 00, min 1 why not 15 as max or a 16.   chuff volume  is 00-64, is 00 max again ?

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, March 11, 2021 8:24 AM

 Where does it say the max volume is with the CV at 00? I don't see that in the instruction sheet or the full decoder manual. Pretty sure all the volumes are 0-64, with 0 being basically silent and 64 being max.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, March 11, 2021 8:55 AM

Very confusing,but on page 10 of manual it says for cv 58 master volume that 1=min and 00=max with a range of 00-15 and 09 dfault. I like digitrax because they seem to have decoders built or adapted to older plug and plays but their documentation is weird. Instead of a straight forward for things like programing it will give you the answer but with a lot of extra information the just confuses beginers and in the case od cv's it takes you to read out current cv which you don't need if just programing new cv which later it says you can bypass.

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:07 AM

 OK, that's just for the master, there are other brands where certain CVs interpret a value of 0 as the maximum, or same as maximum, and 1 is the true minimum setting as well.

 On the Zephyr console, at least the original 2 versions, it's just easier to hit the CV-RD button and read the current value to get to the place where you can enter your desired new value and hit CV-WR to write it. On the dual knob DT series throttles you cna skip the read step because you use one knob to pick what CV number and the other knob to pick the value to give it. The newest Zephyr with the display probably works a bit differently than my old original one. 

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:31 AM

rrebell
Very confusing,but on page 10 of manual it says for cv 58 master volume that 1=min and 00=max with a range of 00-15 and 09 dfault.

There are some CVs that work like that. For example, if CV5 is 0, then the engine gets full power at the top speed step. If you change that to say 200, the engines top speed slows down. So in CV58, 0 makes it default to full volume, but you can set the volume to another number from 1 to 15 to make it a little (or a lot) quieter.

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, March 12, 2021 9:00 AM

Problem is, not load enough, for me anyway but then I don't have body back on yet.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, March 12, 2021 9:44 AM

 You need some sort of enclosure to get the best sound out of a speaker - the front needs to be isolated from the back of it.

  I have one of the original SOundbugs, which everyone ALSO said was too quiet. Sitting on my desk, the speaker just laying there, no enclosure - it was audible in the next room. 

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, March 12, 2021 7:39 PM

It comes with an enclosure.

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