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ESU list of CVs for Walthers Mainline GEVO and SD70ace

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ESU list of CVs for Walthers Mainline GEVO and SD70ace
Posted by Soo61245 on Wednesday, November 4, 2020 10:44 PM

I have a Walthers GEVO and SD70ace, both with ESU sound decoders.  Literature sent with the engines lists 10 CVs and their defaults.  I thought there would be a complete list somewhere at the ESU site, for these decoders, but I haven't been able to find it.  I am hoping someone can point me to that list at the ESU site, if it is there.

Also, CV6 does not show on the Walthers list of CVs but if I try to change CV 6 with my Digitrax 402, I get the response that a change has been made.  Can anyone confirm that CV6 does function with these decoders?

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, November 6, 2020 5:44 PM

edit  this post proven wrong by subsequent posts, but I'll leave it for the link to the manual.

I believe these are Loksound 5's.  The manuals are found here

Page 56, if it is a V-5 is what you need.  A complete list of CV's is at the end of the manual.

The V-5 manual is double the size of the Select manual.  I feel like a cropduster in the 20's, used to flying my WW1 surplus Stearman biplane and now I have  Lear jet.  Many more possibilities, but perhaps very few that I needed.

 

 

 

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Posted by Mark R. on Friday, November 6, 2020 6:53 PM

Walthers uses the Essential Sound Unit decoders from ESU. These are not as full featured as the regular off-the-shelf variety ESU sells.  There are fewer sounds(horns) an other features they don't include. I recall seeing a list somewhere, but don't recall where.

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, November 6, 2020 7:56 PM

 The Trainline and possible Mainline series, anyway. The Proto series use full Loksound decoders.

 There's no auto-tune for BEMF on these, and you can't change sounds with the Lokprogrammer. Supposedly they DO have firmware updates that work through the Lokprogrammer - especially important since it seems the original version does not have any way for NCE users to access CVs > 256. 

 I kind of wish ESU hadn't gotten into that game of making cut down versions of their decoders. Unless this allows them to use a cheaper main chip on the board, I can't imagine it saves much money in manufacturing - same for any of the others. If it's simply feature limited by the firmware being used...

 I found some references with pictures in another forum. The Essential unit uses - get this - a more powerful microcontroller than used in the v4. But the ARM-base Essential micro is $2 in small quanitities while the one in the v4 is $4 in small quantities. I haven't had a close look at a v5 board to see what they use there - I suspect also an ARM based one since it's 32 bit.

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Posted by trevorsmith3489 on Saturday, November 7, 2020 12:26 PM
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Posted by Soo61245 on Saturday, November 7, 2020 8:28 PM

Thanks to everyone who replied.  First of all, I should have just gone to JMRI.  After adding this unit to the roster, all the info I need is there....and of course, clearly showing that CV6 is not an option with the Essential decoder. 

For me, consisting is easily my favorite aspect of DCC and I'm only interested in matching diesels in pairs, no 3 or four unit consists. 

I can see that I'll have to dig into setting a speed table in place of what CV6 might have done and I wish I could find at least one YouTube vid that does of good job explaining this function.

john 

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