I have a Loksound Select 6 decoder for an EMD E-8. I want to find out the available horns and number to enter in CV 48 for the horn. I have been all over the Loksound website and cannot find out tje simple information I need. When I go to the EMD E8 selection, it only offers the soundfile download.
Download the Loksound Select Diesel & Steam Users manual from the ESU website. It will list all of the available horns on pg. 32-33 and what CV values to enter to access them. You also need to determine which horn type was used with your prototype's E8.
Tom
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Hi,
hobo9941I have a Loksound Select 6 decoder for an EMD E-8.
Select 6? I could be wrong but I thought 5 was the most recent.
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If you click "Bulletin" on the right of the soundfile page it will open this printable information pane. This is for the E8 (V4) soundfile 75461. There are others I simply picked the first one.
I copied the horn section (strings and percussion will be next)
As with all SELECT decoders there are up to 16 separate horns, 2 separate brake squeals and 2 bells included on this one sound profile! All changeable using CV48. Prime Mover: CV48=0 Dual EMD 12cyl 567 Uses our INTERMEDIATE-HORNS-AND-BELLS template... Horns: CV48=0 Leslie A200 CV48=1 Nathan K3L CV48=2 Nathan M5 CV48=3 Nathan P3 Default CV48=4 Nathan Old Cast P5 CV48=5 Nathan K3HA CV48=6 Leslie RS3L CV48=7 Leslie Dual A125-A200 CV48=8 Leslie A125 CV48=9 Nathan M3 CV48=10 Leslie RS3K CV48=11 Nathan P5a CV48=12 Leslie A-125 CV48=13 Nathan M3H CV48=14 Nathan K5LA CV48=15 Leslie S5TRF
Good Luck, Ed
gmpullman Hi, hobo9941 I have a Loksound Select 6 decoder for an EMD E-8. Select 6? I could be wrong but I thought 5 was the most recent.
hobo9941 I have a Loksound Select 6 decoder for an EMD E-8.
Loksound 5 is the most recent version. My 5 micro 8-pin will be arriving either tomorrow or Wednesday so I'll finally have the opportunity to try it out.
ESU also dropped the Select moniker. And I don't know if they carried the Loksound 4 to the Loksound 5 line...or THAT is the new Loksound 5.
I copied the horn section (strings and percussion will be next) Good Luck, Ed
Sounds like you have it all orchestrated, Ed. Don't forget the wind section.
I presume that is a LokSound Select 6AUX (or AUX6) that is one of 3 Select versions. It is the 1.1A motor version (with sound), and is a circuit board with plastic wrapper and wires coming from the board for wired hookup. The Select Micro is a 0.75A motor version, similarly wrapped but a physically smaller package which can be helpful in tight quarters. The Select Direct is a long circuit board that snaps into place to replace existing boards in many diesels. The Direct has solder pads to connect the wires. It has a Select Micro atop it so is a 0.75A motor version.
http://www.esu.eu/en/products/loksound/loksound-select/
Note that the 6AUX and Micro lighting output (blue plus other wires) are 12V DC, so resistors must be added for LEDs. The Direct can be used for LEDs or bulbs but the right resistance must be utilized. The Direct package describes what to do for various light requirements, not the subject here.
The Selects work like the V4.0's in most regards (e.g., ability to load a sound file like an E8). The Selects allow CV changes to motor and sound (such as horn selections from the contained sound file) functions, but do not allow customizing to the extent of loading your own sounds, tweaking the sounds, etc).
One nice thing about the Selects was the lower price than the V4.0's.
Scrutinize the Select manual for particular CV adjustments. Note the following:
a) some of the CVs (above 256) are "indexed", so it may be required to set CVs 31 and/or 32 before setting the desired CV
b) the manual does not tell you all the specifics of the CV settings, horn selections, etc. for the CVs associated with a particular installed or downloaded sound file. Print out the full info sheet (frst click "more") for any details unique to the file:
As with all Select decoders there are also 16 separate horns, 2 more…
http://projects.esu.eu/projectoverviews/search?cat=2&q=e8
c) note that, if programming on the main, some CV changes (e.g., master volume CV63) can be observed immediately. Some CVs require power off/on to observe the change. CV48, which includes your horn selection, may be one of those so if you change CV48 and hear no difference, try power off/on and the change will be apparent. I forget which CVs include that issue.
Paul
Modeling HO with a transition era UP bent
The differentiator in the Loksound v5 line is going to be which digital protocols they support. They simpler model is the Loksound v5 DCC, which as the name implies, speaks just DCC, not Marklin/Motorola, Selectrix, and M4. ANd will run on DC. The 'full' v5 will work with any of the digital protocols. Unless you run a European digital command system (NOT a European DCC system like ESU's or Lenz), there is no point in paying for the multi-protocol version of the decoder.
There is listed, but I don't think shipped yet, a v5 Direct, which is just the same Atlas/Athearn board form factor of the Select Direct but it's a full v5 decoder. You can typically accomplish the same thing using the v5 21 pin decoder and a motherboard.
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It says on the box, Loksound Select 6-AUX 73400
It is programmed to sound file 73483 which is supposed to be twin EMD 567s for the E-8.
Out of the box, it has a single chime blatt horn, which is not even on the Loksound horn selections. The CV 48 was 0 at default with the single chime horn. I don't know or care if it was on the prototype. I don't like it. So I have to keep programming it, adding 1 thru 15 to find a horn that I like. Otherwise I like it. The motor control is excellent. I don't much care for the CVs up in the hundreds just to change the bell volume or other things, or all the steps you have to go through just to program the higher CVs. Seems like they could accomplish everything with 100 or less CVs.
"It is the 1.1A motor version (with sound), and is a circuit board with plastic wrapper and wires coming from the board for wired hookup."
Actually it had an 8 pin plug which was quite an easy install. Just solder a couple wires onto the speaker, plug it in and put the shell back on.
hobo9941It says on the box, Loksound Select 6-AUX 73400
That means it's a 6-function Loksound Select decoder.
If you look at the "bulletin" (print it out) for 73483 "Dual EMD 12cyl 567C (FT) LokSound Select Retail Soundfiles" you wlll see included a list of horns for that particular sound file. Note that the horns for 73461 "Dual EMD 12c 567 E-Unit (FT) LokSound Select Retail Soundfiles" are different. And the CV48 default values are also different. Both items show E3 - E9 locos. One may be a better recording of E units but the other may be a more accurate one for E8s specifically.
On the ESU site, go to Downloads / Sound Files / LokSound V4.0 - Select / LokSound Select Retail Sound Files. Then enter E8 in the search box and the two Select files for E8 will be listed.
http://projects.esu.eu/projectoverviews/search?cat=2&q=E8
As noted above, the horn details which may be different than the Select manual list) for each sound file are usually hidden initially. Click "Demos sound & functions" and then the "Bulletin" for icon the most complete info for each file. There are often differences for a particular file from what is shown in the Select manual. Note that one E unit file (73483) has a Nathan single chime horn default and the other file (73461) has a Nathan K5LA horn default.
I am no purist so I experiment with the horn options and pick one I like, if not happy with the default for that sound file.
Not me, that's why I like that you can change them around. And also why for my RS-3's I have to use v4 (and not v5) - the horn I need is not part of the Select sound file for the RS-3. Or at least it wasn't witht he original version of the Select project. But ESU DOES have the correct horn in their library of sounds you can download - so at least I don't have to go find a recording, or make my own recording (not happening). So using a v4 (since this was a few years ago), I was able to swap out the horn in the v4 RS-3 project for the one in the library, a proper M3RT1. And yes, I swap out the horn casting ont he models - the Atlas ones have a single horn and the Athearn I got has a 5 chime horn fitted (at least in the right place). It's a signature feature of the Reading RS-3s as much as the extended battery box and the cab window drip strips.
And my F units blat away, it's the right horn, Wabco A2 was what they came with, IIRC. I don't have the book with that info handy to check. But the correct one is set in the sound units.
When the soounds are already in Loksound format, as is the case with the sound libraries Loksound has available for download, it's extremely easy to customize the sounds, except you need to use a v4 (and now v5) decoder, not a Select, and you need a Lokprogrammer. But since I am only using Loksound for sound decoders, the purchase of a Lokprogrammer was well worth it. You can set the other config stuff using it as well, and faster than any other form of programming.
You'd NEVER get all the felxibility in under 100 CVs. Only the most basic sound decoders even come close to gitting it all in under 100 CVs - of the first 100, many are reserved as part of the NMRA standards, so there aren;t that many available any. In Loksound, there are 40 rows of 17 CVs each just for the function mapping - 680 total CVs - because you cna map any function button to any sound slot to any function wire with a larger number of conditions - ie, play this sound if you hit F5 while slowing down, and start flashing the Mars light. No other decoder can do this.
Lots of information here. It'll take a while to digest it all.LOL My E-8 does not need six functions. No ditch lights. Just headlite and maybe a mars light. Gonna do some programmin tomorrow. I have over 60 locos, plus half a dozen waiting for sound and decoders.
peahrens If you look at the "bulletin" (print it out) for 73483 "Dual EMD 12cyl 567C (FT) LokSound Select Retail Soundfiles" you wlll see included a list of horns for that particular sound file. Note that the horns for 73461 "Dual EMD 12c 567 E-Unit (FT) LokSound Select Retail Soundfiles" are different. And the CV48 default values are also different. Both items show E3 - E9 locos. One may be a better recording of E units but the other may be a more accurate one for E8s specifically. On the ESU site, go to Downloads / Sound Files / LokSound V4.0 - Select / LokSound Select Retail Sound Files. Then enter E8 in the search box and the two Select files for E8 will be listed. http://projects.esu.eu/projectoverviews/search?cat=2&q=E8 As noted above, the horn details which may be different than the Select manual list) for each sound file are usually hidden initially. Click "Demos sound & functions" and then the "Bulletin" for icon the most complete info for each file. There are often differences for a particular file from what is shown in the Select manual. Note that one E unit file (73483) has a Nathan single chime horn default and the other file (73461) has a Nathan K5LA horn default. I am no purist so I experiment with the horn options and pick one I like, if not happy with the default for that sound file.
Thank you so much. I found what I was looking for.