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Crossbuck 12 volt alternating flashing light circuit

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Crossbuck 12 volt alternating flashing light circuit
Posted by DAVID SMITH1 on Monday, October 15, 2018 7:37 PM

Hi,

 I'm looking for a 12 volt atlernating light circuit I could use with a Railway Crossbuck signal. Is there a simple circuit to use or available for purchase? I see lots of circuits for LEDs, but not 12 volt bulbs. I wanted to use a Digitrax DS64 with its built-in flasher but it only works with LEDs. Any help hooking up a circuit with the DS64 would help with control.

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:24 AM

Are you modeling O or S scale?  If not, you might consider switching to LEDs.  That will give you more options and greater reliability as well.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:03 PM

Unless you’re just into incandescent bulbs I’d go with changing them out to LEDs, cheaper than a flasher circuit too.  I’m one that prefers incandescent lighting wherever they can be seen.  I had a bulb quit in one of my crossings and found it easier to replace both with LEDs.  Finding a matching bulb wasn’t easy.
 
I have a second crossing about three feet from the one I have now have using LEDs and the difference isn’t that noticeable.
 
EDIT:
 
You gan get red LEDs in 2mm, 3mm, 5mm 8mm and 10mm to fit any scale.
 
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Posted by gregc on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:30 PM

Circuitron?

but there may be others

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Posted by retsignalmtr on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:36 PM

Dallee Flasher #367. Controls 3 amps. Can be used with AC or DC power. Doesn't state whether usable with bulbs though.

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Posted by DAVID SMITH1 on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:41 PM

The crossbuck signal is 1 to 1 scale.  Closer inspection of the light bulbs indicate that they are 10volt 18watt bulbs. I will like to get the bulbs to flash and controlled through the Digitrax DS64, but the output of the 64 is setup for LEDs. I guess I'm in need of a circuit that will control the crossbuck incandescent bulbs via the Digitrax DS64.

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Posted by DAVID SMITH1 on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:46 PM

Yes, I do find lots of circuits for LEDs in crossbucks, but I have a scale 1:1 set in my train room and would like them to be controlled by a switch command through my Digitrax setup. I was thinking the DS64 could do it but it is only setup for LEDs. Is there a way to have the DS64 trigger the incandescent bulbs in the crossbucks? I've found the bulbs are rated at 10volt 18watts.

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Posted by DAVID SMITH1 on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:49 PM

Thanks. I've checked their boards and don't think they have enough power for the 10v18w incandescent bulbs in the crossbucks.

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Posted by DAVID SMITH1 on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:49 PM

Thanks. I will take a look.

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Posted by NeO6874 on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:40 PM

A dead simple approach would be a 555 timer driving a relay with at least one each normally closed and normally open contact. One bulb wired to each contact.

555 Timer can run up to 12 or 15 VDC, with a max output of 200mA (although if your relay is pulling 200mA itself, a transistor acting as the switch is probably a better idea).

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 4:13 PM

You might be able to use an Automotive type alternating flasher.  There are several types of solid state emergency flashers available but I would expect them to be a bit pricy.  They should be able to work at lower current.
 
Grote 44030 should work, their spec says any load 12 volt to 24 volt.
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted by Mark R. on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:31 PM

I have a crossbuck in my backyard and, using a 12 volt power supply, used the flasher used to alternate school bus warning lights. It's basically a small metal can with the plug-in contacts on it. Very simple to install and it's made heavy duty for the auto-motive type bulbs. Should be able to find one at most any automotive parts supplier.

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Posted by DAVID SMITH1 on Sunday, October 21, 2018 9:14 PM

I now have the scale 1:1 crossbucks working via a Digitrax DS64, some automotive relays, and a couple of diodes. This is controlled by a switch address which is accessible on my throttle or by JMRI.

 Now I need to figure out how to get the JMRI program to recognize any short on the layout and set the switch address to turn on the crossbuck lights. I can see that the Digitrax PM42 will send a command via the Loconet showing a short and when it clears, so there must be a way for JMRI program to read this information and set a switch command. Has anyone done this before?

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