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Decoder selection for Bowser steam engines

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Decoder selection for Bowser steam engines
Posted by Redvdub1 on Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:11 PM

I have built Bowser/Penn Line K-4 Pacific, E-6 Atlantic, I-1 Decapod, Consolidation, and have a T-1 in the shop.  All the built engines have DC-70 motors which I have isolated from the frame.  I'm ready for a decoder install.  I don't see any web postings for decoder installs on these engines...Anyone?  Thks. 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:32 PM

I have several Bowser DC70/DC71 locomotives all wired for DCC.  I have used MRC, Digitrax and Soundtraxx decoders and all work OK.  I have never liked the brush/commutator arcing of the DC70/DC71 motors so I put back to back Zener diodes (1N5355) across the brushes to reduce the voltage spikes to the decoder.
 
I haven’t lost a decoder driving a DC70 or DC71 motor but be warned locked rotor can be well over 1 amp.
 
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Posted by Redvdub1 on Sunday, November 19, 2017 11:41 AM

Thanks Mel..I've enjoyed your blog for years.  I found a prior posting from you...same subject. 

I use two 18 volt 5 watt Zener diodes (1N5355) back to back across the motor power wires.  I have never had a decoder go bad in any of my Athearn BBs with the diodes installed.
 
 Question..to get forward and reverse protection do I need two pairs of Zeners??
 
 
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Posted by RR_Mel on Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:24 PM

Redvdub1

 

 
 Question..to get forward and reverse protection do I need two pairs of Zeners??
 
 
 

You only need two Zeners, I install mine negative to negative in series with the two positives across the motor brushes per the drawing (left pair in the drawing).
 
Mel
 
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Posted by garya on Sunday, November 19, 2017 6:34 PM

Redvdub1

I have built Bowser/Penn Line K-4 Pacific, E-6 Atlantic, I-1 Decapod, Consolidation, and have a T-1 in the shop.  All the built engines have DC-70 motors which I have isolated from the frame.  I'm ready for a decoder install.  I don't see any web

 

 

postings for decoder installs on these engines...Anyone?  Thks. 

 

I have a couple of Boswer Steam Locomotives, a Casey Jones and an H-9, but both have the "newer" DC-71 motor ready for DCC, with the skewed armature.  I used TCS T1s in both, and they work just fine.  I can't afford sound at the moment.  I'm building an E-6 now, and that has the newer motor, too, so I'll probably put a T1 in that as well.

I've recently acquired a couple of Bowser kits with older motors waiting in the build pile, so I may look into the diodes Mel references.

Gary

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