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Automatic Prime Mover Startup ESU LokSound Select

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Automatic Prime Mover Startup ESU LokSound Select
Posted by gatrhumpy on Friday, September 15, 2017 2:01 PM

So I set, in order, CV31=16, CV32=2, and CV403=32. The prime mover STILL does not start up automatically once power is applied to my NCE PowerCab system. 

EDIT:So I googled it, and apparently you have to set the following CVs in order: CV31=16, CV32=2, and CV419=32. It's NOT CV403 like in the stupid damned ESU manual to turn on the sound automatically. Ridiculous.

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Friday, September 15, 2017 2:49 PM

You haven't read much computer system documentation.  I can tell.

 

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Posted by gatrhumpy on Friday, September 15, 2017 3:02 PM

You don't know anything about me to make such a statement.

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Friday, September 15, 2017 4:03 PM

No, but after 20+ years of reading computer documentation, I know that it's always got errors in it.

If I got upset every time I encountered an error in computer documentation, I'd have died of bleeding ulcers before I hit 40.

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Posted by gatrhumpy on Friday, September 15, 2017 4:55 PM

As an engineer, I know computer documentation. ESU makes great decoders, but their manuals suck.

You would think someone would have pointed out such errors and corrected them.

My apologies for being a bit too 'curt.'

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, September 15, 2017 5:12 PM

gatrhumpy
EDIT:So I googled it, and apparently you have to set the following CVs in order: CV31=16, CV32=2, and CV419=32. It's NOT CV403 like in the stupid damned ESU manual to turn on the sound automatically. Ridiculous.

For Intermountain locos, it depends and as I read it opposite of what you are trying to do.  F8 is required to intiate sound.

F units  CV 31 = 16 FIRST CV 32 = 2 second CV 387 =16 after setting the other CV's

SD40-2 other CV's + CV 419 =16

U18 and ES44's other CV's + CV 403 = 16

http://www.intermountain-railway.com/customerservice/dccwebpage/ESU-FAQ-Page.html

I put a loksound select in an Atlas and sound started when power was applied to the PowerCab (not a command to the loco)  I didn't like that and discovered that F8 was mapped as not F8.  I believe I solved that by making F8 ...F8 again.  I didn't see an explanation of what "not F8" means or why you would use it.

What loco do you have?

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Posted by rrinker on Friday, September 15, 2017 5:52 PM

 The default maps F8 to the sound "prime mover", therefore, F8 needs to be ON to enable the prime mover sound. By setting the CV to the logic of "Not F8"  it means the prime mover is on when F8 is not on.

 One thing to remember is that since EVERY key and EVERY sounf and EVERY function wire is completely reconfigurable, and also there are 2 logic settings for each function (hence the hundreds of CVs to handle every possible case), there are endless combinations. All settable by the person who creates the sound project.

 So - the manual is NOT wrong - the manual is correct for ESU produced sound projects. Each OEM using the decoders can set up their sound projects however they want. The only ones who can accurately document this is the OEM who made the sound project in the first place. ESU's manual can give you a starting point, and certainly all the CVs that are fixed (but not necessarily the default values for those CVs). It would be nice if everyone made their sound projects the same, but complain to the OEMs, not ESU. Plus you have a wide variety of models. ALl have the basics, but then you start adding features like an extra rotary beacon, ditch lights, independent number boards, or class lights that can correctly display off, white, red, or green. With 29 functions there are plenty of keys to activate all this but outside of standard US practice of making F0 the headlight, F1 the bell, and F2 the horn, all the rest are up for grabs and the OEM can map any key they want to any feature they want.

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Posted by gatrhumpy on Friday, September 15, 2017 6:01 PM

It's a Kato N Scale SD45 with an ESU LokSound Select Micro DCC Sound decoder.

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Posted by gatrhumpy on Friday, September 15, 2017 6:47 PM

The manual did not say anything of CV419. THAT is what I have a problem with.

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Posted by maxman on Friday, September 15, 2017 8:49 PM

gatrhumpy
The manual did not say anything of CV419.

I will first say that I am not an expert on this.  However, I went through this with a friend recently and it was CV403, not 419.  Assuming that the decoder in question is a Select, there is a FAQ on the Loksound website that discusses this, and tells how to have the sound on at power up, as well as sound off at power up

Here is the link: http://www.esu.eu/en/support/faq/loksound/loksound-select/

 

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Friday, September 15, 2017 9:17 PM

My favorite was the old IBM System 360 troubleshooting manual.  It had entries like:

Error Message: Pointer Error
Meaning:  There is an error with a pointer.

Gee, thanks, Big Blue.

 

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Posted by gatrhumpy on Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:33 PM

OK, that made an engineer laugh out loud.

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