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Wiring Tortoise with Atlas turnouts for DCC

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Wiring Tortoise with Atlas turnouts for DCC
Posted by kasskaboose on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:47 PM

How to connect a Tortoise switch machine and Atlas turnout?  I checked out the DCC wiki page and wiringfordcc.com but not sure if they had correct information.

I know that Atlas custom line turnouts are DCC friendly, so the wiring should be fairly simple.  Any suggestions or user-friendly diagrams is most appreciated.

Best,

Lee

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:43 AM

 It's in the instructions that come with the Tortoise, sort of. Figure 2 shows the switch contacts that you use. AN-6000-02 shows the hookup: 

http://www.circuitron.com/index_files/AN/an-6000-02.pdf

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:04 AM

Are there panel lights or signals involved?  How do you intend to power the tortoises?

www.metronorthnmra.org/archives/Tortoise%20Wiring-1.pdf

You asked this question before,

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/t/254991.aspx

Somehow your shirt pin comment escaped notice.  Sounds like a short waiting to happen to me.

 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:12 AM

 Since the throwbar hole is in the middle of the track, and the Atlas throwbars are plastic, holding the points with a shirt pin won't short anything. I use caulk to lay roadbed and track, with pushpins to hold where needed until the caulk sets up - I've driven trains right over a section of track with a line of push pins (the ones with the small round head, not those big ones commonly seen on pin-up boards - the 'pin' part of those is too short to actually go into the roadbed and hold the pin and track in place). The only real danger is if they are too close to the center and stick up too far, the Kadee trip pins might catch.

 Wow this is annoying - the 'o' key on my keyboard is failing and I get 2 or 3 o's for every time I press it. Very odd as o is not used THAT much relative to others. I even play games on this computer sometimes and that uses WASD all the time. Oh well, time for a new one.

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:30 AM

kasskaboose

How to connect a Tortoise switch machine and Atlas turnout?  I checked out the DCC wiki page and wiringfordcc.com but not sure if they had correct information.

I know that Atlas custom line turnouts are DCC friendly, so the wiring should be fairly simple.  Any suggestions or user-friendly diagrams is most appreciated.

Best,

Lee

 

Lee, if you have a DC power pack, you can wire the Tortoise using DC power. A DPDT toggle switch can be wired between the Tortoise and the DC power pack to control the movements of the Atlas turnout.

Rich

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 7:38 AM

I had visions of a line of shirt pins like a snow fence on the sides of the turnout Smile  waiting to be knocked down between the rails

Randy you can gently pry the O key up off the keyboard and clean underneath.

Lee is there a specific question that you are confused about?

Henry

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Posted by kasskaboose on Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:40 PM

Rich: Thanks for the instructions.  I might need to call Circuitron to get clarification about using multiple switch machines for one turnout.  I highly doubt it but would be kinda cool.

All: I do have a DC throttle and can dedicate that to operating the switch machines.  The wiring would go between the Tortoise, a DPDT, and the DC throttle?  I would need one DPDT for each Tortoise?  Pls clarify.

Cheers!

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, August 25, 2017 2:10 AM

kasskaboose
I might need to call Circuitron to get clarification about using multiple switch machines for one turnout.

I don't understand why you would want to do that. 

kasskaboose
I would need one DPDT for each Tortoise?

Sometimes.  In a crossover from Main Line A to Main Line B both turnouts need to always be set properly in the correct orientation so a single DPDT would be the most efficient way to do it. 

In a passing siding, it really wouldn't be prototypical or necessary for both turnouts to operate in unison.  In a yard it would be unworkable to have all the turnouts operate with one DPDT.

In the Canadian Canyon Series on MRVP they used a Digitrax DS64 stationary decoder to control multiple routes through a yard. Push a button and multiple turnouts line up.   That degree of sophistication is more complex and more costly than DPDT switches (which are less than $1/each on Ebay)

As Rich said (power source) to (DPDT) to (Tortoise)

Henry

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