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IHC Mother Hubbard 2-6-0 Amp Draw? (Typical Re: DCC Conversion)

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Posted by peahrens on Monday, June 19, 2017 9:47 AM

I'm considering finding an HO version.  Can anyone advise whether the motor is likely 1 amp max for DCC?  If not, how difficult to re-motor (I've never done that).  Thanks for any insight.

Paul

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, June 19, 2017 10:19 AM

Paul
 
I have an IHC 2-6-0 Mother Hubbard that I bought about ten years ago.  I’ve only test run it.  I just checked it for current draw:
 
0.15 amps at 12 VDC – at wheel slip
 
0.31 amps at 12 VDC locked rotor.
 
It is a Southern Pacific #61.
 
It is available should anyone like to give it a good home, I bought in a weak moment.
 
 
 
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Posted by rrinker on Monday, June 19, 2017 10:47 AM

SP Laugh

The closest prototype for it is NYO&W.

Funny in checking that I came upon an old thread here from 2005 where I actually posted I was waiting for solid evidence the BLI was going to do a Reading T1 4-8-4. In the 12 years since - they've done 3 runs, first as PCM, and twice as BLI.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Monday, June 19, 2017 12:28 PM

rrinker

SP Laugh

The closest prototype for it is NYO&W.

 

                                     --Randy

 

 

Randy
 
I have the box the Mother Hubbard came in and it was a Delaware & Hudson #61, IHC #23161.  It’s been so long that I forgot, I must have done the SP decal myself.  I did a really good job even looking closely it looks factory.
 
It was a moment of weakness, I knew the SP never owned a Mother Hubbard.
 
I also fell for a Mantua 2-6-6-2 logger when they were released.  My layout area is the Southern New Mexico Mountains and the SP had a logging operation at Cloudcroft New Mexico for manufacturing ties.  They used a 2-6-6-2 articulated locomotive (it wasn’t a logger) to haul the finished ties to El Paso.  It was actually a Baldwin MM1.
 
Mel
 
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Posted by peahrens on Monday, June 19, 2017 12:37 PM

Mel, thanks for the info.  I sent you a PM about potential adoption of your 2-6-0.  I can't find a UP 2-6-0 existed but perhaps 2-8-0s or 4-x-0s.  But what the heck.

 

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Posted by hardcoalcase on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 5:36 PM

 

 

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rrinker

SP Laugh

The closest prototype for it is NYO&W.

Actually, the SP did have a camelback, as did UP, ATSF and a few other "very far away from NE PA" RRs.  Apparently these were experments on using low grade local coal, and also apparently, the RR management were not impressed. 

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:08 PM

 That may be, but the IHC loco is based off a NYO&W prototype and isn't correct for D&H, Reading, Lehigh Valley, CNJ, or any of the other 'traditional' camelback owners, let alone the outliers like SP and UP. Maybe I'm too picky, but these days we can actually get correct locos foor most any road, certainly the big names like SP, UP, Sante Fe, etc. that we don't so much need the "slap a big name road on it and it will sell" mentality any more.

 I also have nothing against freelancers, putting their own road name on something like that. Truthfully, if someone wants to letter it SP or UP, have at it. I won't hate you. Put an SF warbonnet on a NYC streamlined Hudson and we may have words..  Stick out tongue

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:30 PM

The SP did have one Camelback but it was a 4-6-0 (#2282) not a 2-6-0.  It was assigned to the Sonora Line in Mexico and ended up in LA before going to scrap.
 
 
 
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Posted by ATSFGuy on Thursday, June 22, 2017 9:52 PM

Have any DCC equipped Camelbacks been released yet?

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:10 PM

 Not factory equipped that I am aware of.

There haven't been many period, in plastic anyway.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, June 23, 2017 12:46 AM

rrinker
Put an SF warbonnet on a NYC streamlined Hudson and we may have words..

LaughLaughLaughLaughIck!Dead

Thanks for the laugh Randy!

Dave

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