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220V transformer for MTH

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220V transformer for MTH
Posted by SkyriderV8 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:25 PM

Hello

I am stay at Thailand where use power 220Volt/50Hz. I also own MTH DCS TIU used for MTH HO/DC. Now I had interrested in MTH O Guage 3 Rail. 

please suggest me the suitable 16-22VAC transformer for MTH DCS Controller/Trains with support power source 220 Volt.

or if I buy Lionel Powerhouse 180Watt or MTH Z1000 Brick, both of them need 110V input, can I plug them to 220V/110 Adapter with frequency 50 Hz ?

 

Thank for advance.

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Posted by 7j43k on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:29 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:33 AM

You can either employ a step-down transformer to reduce the 220V coming from the grit to 110V and hook it to the MTH transformer or use a 100 Watt 220V power supply like the one in the link below:

LGB Power Supply

You may need an adaptor plug.

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Posted by SkyriderV8 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:20 AM

7j43k

Thank Ed.

I interrested in 220 V to 110 V transformer but I not sure that this transformer will convert frequency from 50Hz to 60 Hz or not ?

 

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Posted by SkyriderV8 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:23 AM

Sir Madog

You can either employ a step-down transformer to reduce the 220V coming from the grit to 110V and hook it to the MTH transformer or use a 100 Watt 220V power supply like the one in the link below:

LGB Power Supply

You may need an adaptor plug.

 

LGB Power Supply convert from AC to DC, doesn't it ?

I read from MTH Trains manual, it said MTH train O Gauge can support both of DC and AC conversion but in DC there are limited sound function.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:26 AM

Yes, the LGB power supply has an output of 22V DC.

There are numerous power supplies/transformers available giving you an output voltage of 22 or 24V AC, but not with 100 Watt rating.

You may have to ask your local electrician about it.

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:06 AM

SkyriderV8
 

 

Thank Ed.

I interrested in 220 V to 110 V transformer but I not sure that this transformer will convert frequency from 50Hz to 60 Hz or not ?

 

 

It does not change the frequency.

I do not think it needs to change.

Changing the frequency is only necessary for things like synchronous motors, where operation depends on the frequency.

I cannot guarantee you will have no problem.  But I do not think you will.

 

 

Ed

 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:21 AM

In the East, Metro-North changed its power to 60 Hz after being informed that AMTK was going to do that. AMTK of course never did that so NYP to WAS is still 25 cycle. North to Boston it is 60 cycle.

NJT and AMTK trains can run on both frequencies, but the MTERO NORTH exuipment can oly run on 60 cycles.

In order to run on 25 cycles the transformer would have to have a much heavier core which the NJT and AMTK equipment have, but which was never put in the MN equipment.

Thus for the Football games in the Meadowlands, it is always NJT equipment that is used east to New Haven even though it is an MN train with MN crews and or pilots for the NJT engineers.

 

The trasnsformer difference between 60 Hz and 50 Hz is probably nominal. If it does not work, or if it burns up well, then you will know that it did not work.

When the GG-1s ran to New Haven the line was still 25 cycle. A 25 Hz transforme has no problem with 60Hz, theus if you buy a 50Hz transformer it will handle  60Hz with no problem.

NOW COMPUTER SWITCHING TRANSFORMERS are a horse of a different color. You can plug your computer in to 110v or 220v simply by using a different cord, and moving the little recessed switch on the back of the computer which simply cuts in a small resistor.

Some addaptors do not convert power, they only convert the cord from one plug to another. If the equipment will not make internal adjustments for the voltage you will have a problem.

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Posted by SkyriderV8 on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:50 PM

7j43k

 

 
SkyriderV8
 

 

Thank Ed.

I interrested in 220 V to 110 V transformer but I not sure that this transformer will convert frequency from 50Hz to 60 Hz or not ?

 

 

 

 

It does not change the frequency.

I do not think it needs to change.

Changing the frequency is only necessary for things like synchronous motors, where operation depends on the frequency.

I cannot guarantee you will have no problem.  But I do not think you will.

 

 

Ed

 

 

I just found feature on MTH DCS Remote. The remote allow me to change TIS's AC Input Frequency from 60Hz to 50Hz. So I think I choose "buying brick transformer and 220 Volt to 110 Volt transformer" options

Thanks Smile

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:46 PM

You are welcome.

 

Have fun!!

 

 

Ed

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Posted by SkyriderV8 on Friday, June 9, 2017 9:56 AM

Hello All

 

Today I test Uhlenbrock Power Supply 150VA Input 230VAC Output 17VDC (Used for Uhlenbrock DCC Booster). It work well with MTH DCS TIU and MTH LOCO O 3-Rail GE ES44AC and also with MTH HO Locos.

So I not need to find Power Transformer 220V/110V and Lionel Powerhouse Brick :)

 

 

 

 

 

Information http://www.uhlenbrock.de/de_DE/service/download/handbook/en/I4B050BD-043.apd/Bes20075-20155e.pdf

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, June 9, 2017 11:39 AM

Thank you.

Good information.

 

 

Ed

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