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Matt Herman making the rounds - new video up with Dana Kawala

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Matt Herman making the rounds - new video up with Dana Kawala
Posted by rrinker on Thursday, February 2, 2017 6:53 PM

 Demoing the Full Throttle again. Nice EMD sounds, too.

And he let out some info at the end - Full Throttle features coming with new steam sound projects too!

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, February 2, 2017 7:40 PM

rrinker
Full Throttle features coming with new steam sound projects too!

I installed a few Loksound Selects in some of my current steam locomotives in anticipation of new steam projects being made available. The current sound projects leave some room for improvement...

Looks like I'll be downloading new sounds soon Smile I had heard that Matt was working on some recordings recently.

I look forward to hearing the results. Full throttle in steam might be an interesting concept. Many railroads had long grades where the locomotives would be working hard for long periods, Altoona to Gallitzin, Sand Patch, etc.

I have upgraded most of my ESU diesel roster to Full Throttle. The LokProgrammer has paid for itself many times over! Yes

Good Stuff!

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Posted by Geared Steam on Saturday, February 4, 2017 6:33 AM

rrinker

 Demoing the Full Throttle again. Nice EMD sounds, too.

And he let out some info at the end - Full Throttle features coming with new steam sound projects too!

                           --RandY

 

How will it different from Tsunamis steam DDE that's been around for a long time already that work off the throttle and load without pushing an array of function buttons? 

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, February 4, 2017 10:37 AM

 There's no array of function buttons, there's one button and you use the throttle. It's deliberately NOT using BEMF to sense load on the loco because 20 cars tacked on the back of the loco tend to weigh the same 'empty' or 'loaded' - unless you are pulling an ore train and use live loads or something. With house cars, only you know if you are taking a string of mostly empties or mostly loads. If it works like the diesel version, you would hit F9 to lock the current speed and then if you throttle up it will work harder with stronger chuffs and less cutoff, and if you throttle down the chuffs will get lighter with a longer cutoff until you get to no chuffs, just rod clank.

 They've hit up some operating steam locos to get new recordings, have they been to someplace like Cass to get a Shay? No idea.

                                    

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Posted by Geared Steam on Saturday, February 4, 2017 10:39 PM

Thanks, I need to check it out when released. The TSU 2 does a pretty good job of load sensing but I have some pretty stiff grades, I can see on flat and level how it wouldn't know empties vs full, only when the throttle was increased.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, February 4, 2017 11:02 PM

 Forgot to add, if it works like the diesel on, it also incorporates a brake with that same one function button - if your train is moving say 20mph and is approaching the station, you can turn down the throttle, which will now result in srifting sounds, and you can then use the F9 button as a brake, when you disengage the motor lock, the loco tries to assume the speed of the current throttle setting. Matt is pretty darn good at it, but I espect it takes alittle practice. In the video he uses the brake when coupling to a cut of cars and he doesn;t slam into them or shove them halfway down the track. He even then simulates giving it an extra shove because the pin didn't drop. Again, not sure how this will be translated over to the steam version since steam locos do not operate like diesels.

 The ESU web site has no mention of steam Full THrottle, but it sounds like they were showing it at Springfield last weekend, so if anyone happened to stop by the ESU booth and saw the steam Full Throttle - pipe up.

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Posted by Mark R. on Sunday, February 5, 2017 8:32 PM

There's a 43 minute video of Matt Herman from this past Saturday at Trainworld in NY demonstrating their products in addition to demonstrating the new Steam Full Throttle. Sorry, but it's a link to their Facebook page ....

https://www.facebook.com/TrainWorldLLC/videos/1621542957861510/

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, February 6, 2017 6:45 AM

 Nice. New N scale decoders, too. And I guess someone managed to run with my idea for a universal throttle - their new Android remote can work with ESU systems but it also runs Engine Driver and can work with ANY DCC system that supports JMRI.

 I totally forgot that my old PCM T-1 has BEMF-based chuff (3.5 decoder). But when Matt mentioned it, I remembered that yes, if you try to hold back the loco, the chuffs increase in intensity. Never had it on a grade steep enough to make a difference, and on the club layout even pulling a decent length train, it's like the argument in favor of Full Throttle goes, the loco has no idea if the cars are empty or loaded, and a string of 20 or 25, even NMRA weighted, cars just isn;t that much load on flat track to make a noticeable difference.

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Posted by Mark R. on Monday, February 6, 2017 7:20 AM

I've had my three Mobile Control II throttles for about a year now and they are a real treat to operate with. You can easily make or break consists and scroll through your entire engine roster. By just swiping the screen side to side you can bring up a different engine complete with all the function buttons that are registered to it. 

Not cheap, but an amazingly well thought out throttle.

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Posted by maxman on Monday, February 6, 2017 10:46 AM

rrinker
Demoing the Full Throttle again

Any link to this?

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Monday, February 6, 2017 12:36 PM

not exactly revolutionary.  Soundtraxx and QSI have had speed-uncoupled throttle notching for years now.  I know for a fact the QSI has a sensitivity setting for how sensitive the throttle up goes during BEMF hill climbs.  I think the soundtraxx does too.

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, February 6, 2017 4:54 PM

 This has nothing to do with BEMF, and ESU has has a manual notch control all along as well. It is in fact the exact opposite of the standard manual notching PLUS unlike anyone prior manual notching it also allows the loco speed to adjust up and down to match the notch. I had a Tsunami until I traded it for an ESU and while I could hit F5 and F6 to fgo up and down notches (I think that was what functions were assigned to it) that was it - it just changed the prime mover sound. Watch one of the videos, this is different than what Soundtraxx and TCS and QSI do.

 The video is I think on MRVP, I don't know if it is one they set to allow access by anyone or if it is subscribers only, but it was on the most viewed list on the the left when I originally posted it, but has fallen off the list. There is also another demo of diesel Full Throttle on Youtube as one of Ken Patterson's "What's Neat" videos but linking that is probably not nice to our hosts since that comes from a competing publication. It does also have a nice interview with Michael Gross, the actor from Family Ties who is also a huge train buff. Should be easy enough to google it now.

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