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Cure For Frog Shorts

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Cure For Frog Shorts
Posted by Tophias on Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:49 PM

I contacted Tonnys Trains to discuss how exactly to change the sensitivity of one of my PSX breakers to eliminate the occasional momentary shorts caused by metal wheels crossing the rails of Peco insulfrogs.   I was advised instead of changing the setting I should do the " nail polish" fix, but to use CA.  So my question is, has anyone done this using CA and what is the best type of CA; thick, thin, quick cure, slow cure etc.?  And does it work and if so how well? And does it need to be redone after some period of time?  Thnx all.

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, May 3, 2016 7:03 PM

Disregard Tony's advice. Use clear nail polish.

Rich

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Posted by Tophias on Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:03 PM

How often does nail polish need to be applied?  Fortunately I usually need to do a thorough cleaning of track just once  year, now using Act 6006 fluid in a CMX tank car cleaner.  Will that remove the nail polish?  Will wheel traffic remove the nail polish?   At what rate?

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:19 PM

Tophias

How often does nail polish need to be applied?  Fortunately I usually need to do a thorough cleaning of track just once  year, now using Act 6006 fluid in a CMX tank car cleaner.  Will that remove the nail polish?  Will wheel traffic remove the nail polish?   At what rate?

 

I cannot state a specific rate, but it does not need to be repplied often. Yes, wheel traffic degrades the coverage and so does cleaning the track. You will know when the nail polish has lost its effectiveness, and that is when you reapply it.

Rich

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Posted by josephbw on Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:22 AM
I put nail polish on the frogs at our club layout at least 10-12 years ago, and I've only had to touch up 1 of the 200 or so frogs in that time.
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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:09 AM

IMG_2677

 

Looking at these on the net, I think the cure is to not wear them in the first place

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, May 4, 2016 12:53 PM

richhotrain

Disregard Tony's advice. Use clear nail polish.

Rich

 

I agree with Rich's first statement.  However, my advice would be to cut a gap just a 1/4 or 3/8" further out in ONE OF the two closure rails...take your pick.  If you do this, you'll have a permanent fix.  If you paint anything, it'll last as long as it takes until you get shorts again and have to repeat the process.

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Posted by Tophias on Wednesday, May 4, 2016 1:49 PM

I actually have cut gaps in 3-4 turnouts already. Works 100%.  I was looking to see if there is a better, less invasive solution.  And I actually make the cut just after the turnout rail so as not to upset the turnout.

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Posted by bigpianoguy on Saturday, May 7, 2016 12:29 AM

Can't imagine why you'd want to cure this - I think they look rather stylish.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, May 7, 2016 9:43 AM

 It ain't easy being green.

            --Randy


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

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Posted by bigpianoguy on Friday, May 13, 2016 4:33 PM

As with much in the modelling world, proper order to the procedure must be followed; it's nail polish ON frogs, NOT...

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