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MRC 1664 Decoder

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MRC 1664 Decoder
Posted by Rusty Railz on Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:19 PM

Doe anyone know how to hardwire the MRC 1664 decoder?  I have three that I got for little cost and would like to use them to covert some non-DCC locomotives to DCC.  The 1664 was created as a "drop-in" for the Kato P42 & E8/E9.  I have to believe there is a way to hardwire it for use in other locomotives.  I'm hoping someone can tell me how to do it.

Tags: 1664 , decoder , hardwire , MRC

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Posted by Lee 1234 on Friday, August 22, 2014 4:11 PM

There is a manual on the MRC website.   There are two touch points for track pick-ups, you need to figure out where they are on the decoder board.

 

Lee

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Posted by Rusty Railz on Monday, August 25, 2014 6:19 PM

Thanks for the quick response and my apologies for a somewhat tardy response.  I just returned from a 1000 mile road trip to help some friends celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary.

I realize now that I should have been more exact in my original post.  I was frustrated and not attending to detail.  Again, my apologies.

I had researched the document you mention on MRC's website.  I also reviewed the P42 exploded parts diagram on Kato's website.  From the combination of the two, I deduced (perhaps erroneously) as per these photos and wired the decoder in that manner - track leads to the pickups on my locomotive's trucks and motor leads to the two poles of the motor.


Top of decoderTop of decoderBottom of decoderBottom of decoderI then tested the locomotive on a test track with a current limiting resistor per MRC's instructions.  Locomotive ran forward (hurrah), light came on (hurrah), locomotive did not run in reverse (boo).  Tested again - same results (hurrah, boo).  Tested a third time - no loco movement, no light.  Results did not change from there on.  Big boo!

I had checked the loco with a meter prior to putting it on the test track.  The motor is absolutely isolated from the frame, and there is continuity from the trucks to what I assumed are the track leads.

I checked the loco with a meter after the test track.  Motor is isolated from frame, continuity still there for track leads.

I'm hoping someone who has done the before with the MRC 1664 decoder can tell me what I've done wrong and whether or not I've fried the decoder.

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Posted by Rusty Railz on Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:28 AM

Don't know what's going on here, but it's frustrating.  I upload photos and inserted the URLs, but something ain't right.  I'll just look elsewhere for assistance.  Thanks anyway.

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Posted by Rusty Railz on Sunday, April 12, 2015 10:23 AM
I have resolved this issue. If you have the same question, start a conversation with me and I will explain what I did. It was a very simple fix.

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Posted by Rusty Railz on Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:38 PM

No.  I run N scale w/o sound.  While that may not be in the majority of DCC users, it's what I'm doing on my layout and it's what works for me.  I had an opportunity to purchase several of the aforementioned MRC decoders at a very reasonable price and they work very well after I resolved the issue stated in the original post.  I merely offered a solution to any other "model rails" that might be interested.  For a cost of 20-25% of a Loksound, I have decoders that serve my purpose quite well.  No hammer necessary, thank you just the same.

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Posted by Rusty Railz on Monday, April 13, 2015 7:13 PM
“Oh, a wise guy, huh?  Nyuk, nyuk!”  Wink  Sure, I don’t mind sharing, just didn’t think there would be a wide audience for the information.
 
On the rear underside of the decoder are two brass tabs, one on each side.  They have to be pressed down and soldered to the contact points beneath them.  Those two contacts/tabs are the motor leads.  At the front underside are two long contact points which are the power pickup leads.  That’s it.
 
The lighting for front and rear headlight can also be modified for the locomotive using the decoder by simply noting the existing decoder lighting setup before removing it (if necessary).

 

Mystery solved!

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