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using auto lamp with nce powerCab

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using auto lamp with nce powerCab
Posted by gregc on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:16 PM

it's certainly very nice that the PowerCab detect faults and automatically shutdown when it detect a short, rather than damage itself.   But because it takes many secs to restart, this delay makes it time consuming to find the cause of the short.  I believe putting an auto buld (1156) in series is one approach for both protecting equipment from shorts, as well as indicating when/where a short is present.   

Is there a benefit to putting an auto-bulb in series with the powerCab?  Will it limit the voltage/current to prevent the PowerCab from shutting down and glow sufficiently to indicate a short, or still allow too much current and the PowerCab will still shutdown?

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:36 PM

http://members.optusnet.com.au/nswmn/1156.htm

NCE sells a device that does essentially the same thing. Has six bulbs. You can do six districts.

 Rich

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:27 PM

I tried the bulb idea and didn't like it.  There is a discussion of the bulb idea here: http://www.wiringfordcc.com/track.htm  Another discussion here: http://www.rr-cirkits.com/Notebook/short.html  You can form your own opinion.

Regardless of one's opinion on the viability of the bulb idea, I don't think it will work with the PowerCab.  If you read the second discussion, it mentions that the 1156 bulb draws 2.5 amps when fully lit.  I don't know at what value it starts to light.  However, since the PowerCab puts out (I think) less than 2 amps, the PowerCab will probably trip before you notice the bulb.

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:43 PM

Forgot about the current draw for that auto bulb.

 The NCE CP6 has bulbs good for 1.0 amp. and bulbs for 1.75 amp.

 Yahoo has a active NCE Group which is usually specific to NCE products. Not run by NCE but by experienced NCE users.

Yahoo DCC groups have loads of Files and photos posted by users. I find it useful to belong to more than one forum which has helped me a lot.

 Rich

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Posted by gregc on Thursday, May 15, 2014 4:32 AM

maxman
If you read the second discussion, it mentions that the 1156 bulb draws 2.5 amps when fully lit.  I don't know at what value it starts to light.

this is what i was concerned about

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:05 AM

1156 won;t work with a PowerCab. The bulbs used in the NCE device will. With an 1156, you migth get a bried flash of the bulb before the PowerCab's breaker cuts out, and it won't recover any better than it does with just the locos - the slow recovery is likely due to inrush current on sound locos. Light bulbs also have an inrush current since the filament changes resistence when it heats up. Since the PowerCab does recover on its own, there doesn;t seem to be much reason to use light bulbs. Just always remember to line switches properly so it doesn;t short in the first place  Big Smile

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