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Crossing signals activated by switch

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Crossing signals activated by switch
Posted by ChadMichaels on Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:41 PM

Probably a dumb question, but I'm going to ask it anyways. Is there a way to activate Walther's Crossing signals by opening a switch? I have a industry that the tracks will cross a main highway. I want to set up the signals to when the switch is open to go to the industry from the main line the lights will flash. When the switch is lined for the main the signals will be off.

Reason why I want to do this and not use the photocells is because I wouldnt really have room for them at either end of the track leading in to the industry that crosses the highway.

Chad

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Posted by retsignalmtr on Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:06 PM

If you put an NCE BD20 current detector in the track feeder for that section of track, it will activate the flasher any time a loco drawing power is on that section of track.

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Posted by farrellaa on Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:19 PM

If you use a Tortise Machine to operate the switch (turnout) then you can use a set of internal contacts to activate the flasher unit whenever it is turned to the siding. When it goes back to the mainline the switch will turn the flasher off.

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Posted by farrellaa on Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:25 PM

Just ran across this thread just posted a few days ago and it describes what you need.

Using The Internal Switches on a Tortoise to Control LED Signals

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http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/t/227742.aspx

Sorry, I don't know how to get the hyperlink to work, just scroll down in the 'Electronics' posts until you come to it.

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, February 24, 2014 9:36 AM

ChadMichaels
Probably a dumb question, but I'm going to ask it anyways. Is there a way to activate Walther's Crossing signals by opening a switch?

Hi, Chad

No such thing as a dumb question! Inquiring minds continue to grow...

One thing about switch and switch is that they both have the same spelling but different meaning but I know what you're looking for. When you "open" the track switch you want to "close" the electrical switch, to make contact.

If you don't use a Tortoise you can get a Caboose Industries ground throw with electrical contacts and use one pair of contacts to make the circuit to your crossing signals.

http://www.cabooseind.com/GroundThrows

These are a little fussy to install but once you get things lined up you should be OK.

There are situations on the big railroads where a switch crew has to manually control the crossing signals so you're right there in the prototype operations department!

Have fun, Ed

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Posted by hobo9941 on Monday, February 24, 2014 11:15 PM

If your switch is powered, use an Atlas relay, wired in parallel with the switch motor.

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Posted by ChadMichaels on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:49 AM

I like the caboose Industries idea, Ill have to look into that. Then all I need is a circut board crossing flasher like circuitron makes correct?

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:59 AM

ChadMichaels

I like the caboose Industries idea, Ill have to look into that. Then all I need is a circut board crossing flasher like circuitron makes correct?

 

You say you have the Walthers crossing signals? Just get the Walthers crossing signal controller! ON SALE NOW and discontinued when sold out! Don't hesitate...

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-2307

Should be an easy hookup. Just power the signal controller through the contacts on the Caboose ground throw that close when the points are lined for your siding.

I do not know how Walthers wires the photocells in this controller and they say it is for DC ONLY (?) however, in your situation you only want the signals to come on when you apply power to the controller so I don't see where the "DCC will damage the controller" has anything to do with your application. (IF you indeed use DCC)

The Circuitron unit is completely independant of the track so DC/DCC has no bearing. Maybe Walthers or another forum member has some wiring diagram for this controller. I don't know why they would have to rely on track power?

Let us know how you make out! Ed

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