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No Lights
Posted by KHM60 on Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:07 PM

I installed a digitrax DH165AO in a atlas classic loco runs fine forward and reverse. turn on lights, no lights double checked wiring, hit 0 nolights hit light button on nce controller no lights. did a reset still no lights am i missing something?

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:13 PM

If your loco has LEDs and you didn't use a resistor you probably burned out the lights.

Dave

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Posted by KHM60 on Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:29 PM

stated in the instructions (no-resistor install of LEDS and lamps) it was a circuit board replacement take the old one out put the new one in.

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:44 PM

The old board probably had resistors for an LED headlight but the replacement decoder doesn't.  You have most likely burned out the LED.  Another possibility is that you have the headlight's polarity backwards if it is an LED.

Here's some information I found about the DH165AO light problem as it applies to an Athearn locomotive -- perhaps this information also applies to the Atlas loco:

http://tsd.digitrax.com/index.php?a=1156 

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Posted by KHM60 on Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:50 PM

polarity would make a difference with a light?

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:52 PM

KHM60

polarity would make a difference with a light?

With an LED, yes -- they are polarity sensitive and will not work if the wires are reversed.  You must also put a resistor into one of the leads -- usually 1,000 Ohms.

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, February 20, 2011 1:07 PM

 The DH165A0 does NOT need resistors for LEDs on the forward and reverse lights, it's already limited to 15ma.

 Polarity does matter though.

             --Randy

 


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Posted by KHM60 on Sunday, February 20, 2011 1:16 PM

would i burn out the lights if i reverse the wires to check

 

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:56 PM

Nope. If you look at the picture in the DH165A0 instructions it shows which terminal is + and which is - on each end of the board. If you can actually see the LEDs (they aren't buried in some shrink tube or anything), you might be able to see the two metal bits inside it. One is significantly larger thant he other. The larger side goes to the - terminal.


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Posted by KHM60 on Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:08 PM

i believe i got it right red hooked to the + and black to the - still no lights

 

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Posted by KHM60 on Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:09 PM

i believe i need a volt meter to see if the decoder is putting out

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:28 PM

 Definitely on the volt meter. Harbor Frieght, usually under $3.

There was a recent thread heare installing a decoder in an Atlas loco and it turned out the color code for the LED wires was wrong, so it might be worth flipping them. Also, make sure there is NOT a resistor in the line from those read and black wires tot he LED, the already reduced output ont eh decoder PLUS a dropping resistor may very well result in too low a current to light the LED.

                                  --Randy

 


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