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Tsunami deoder
Posted by CHARPE on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:24 PM

I have installed a tsunami sound decoder,using MRC prodigy advanced2,I have sound light horn bell,the motor souind revs up when I apply speed but the loco won't move forward or in reverse

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:43 AM

Key question:  What type and brand of locomotive ? ? ?

You may need to disassemble it to isolate the motor from the frame.  If you didn't do that, you may have already burned out the motor drive circuitry of the decoder.

 

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Posted by CHARPE on Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:25 AM

It's a Tsunami TSU-750 installed in a CONCOR  EMD 567

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:39 AM

The 750 is also sensitive to heat from overloads. This has been discussed in the Yahoo SoundTraxx Group. There is also a fuse on the decoder board that SoundTraxx can replace. If you have the receipt for the decoder, SoundTraxx might fix it for free. They have for me.

We need more info on your install.

 

Rich

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:31 PM

Can you program the engine address or read back the address (or other CVs) from the engine?  If you get an error when you try to do this, you may have a wiring problem.  Generally, if you mis-wire the motor leads, the decoder can't be programmed or read back.

I installed a Tsunami last year, carefully following the directions and testing things every step of the way.  Once I hooked up the motor leads, it shorted out.  I returned it to Soundtraxx and they replaced it free.  They do support their product.

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Posted by richg1998 on Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:21 PM

When I install the 750's or any decoder, I set my NCE Power Cab to program track, put the loco on the track. If there is a wiring error, the Cab will tell me. Happened once when I mis-wired a decoder. Probably save me some bucks and prevented heartburn.

Rich

 

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Posted by Train Modeler on Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:50 PM

You may have already taken care of, but make sure F11(the brake) is not on.    Also, reset the decoder, ie CV8 to8.    I can't remember if the 750 has a capacitor, but if it does sometimes the end of it can touch on something and short out.   I always put Kapton tape over all the capacitor bottoms before I do an install.

Richard

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Posted by Motley on Friday, January 21, 2011 9:06 AM

Rich,

I didn't even know that putting the loco on the program track can save the decoder if it's wired wrong. I sure wished I knew that when I fried a decoder. LOL

Thanks for the tip!

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Posted by richg1998 on Friday, January 21, 2011 10:43 AM

Motley

Rich,

I didn't even know that putting the loco on the program track can save the decoder if it's wired wrong. I sure wished I knew that when I fried a decoder. LOL

Thanks for the tip!

I had inadvertently switched the orange and red wires during the install. The brand of wire I have makes the two almost the same color depending on the lighting. My NCE Power Cab told me there was an error. Don't remember exactly what the words were. I do not plan to experiment and find out either.

That is the function of the program track. If I buy a use DCC equipped, it first goes on the program track.

Some “experts” will tell you that you do not need a program track because they do not use one.

Rich

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Posted by woodone on Friday, January 21, 2011 11:06 AM

Very good tip here!  I do the same thing when I do a install. Has saved me a decoder or two when I was a sleep doing the hook up.   

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Posted by rockislandnut on Friday, January 21, 2011 3:22 PM

Amen about the program track. Best friend a decoder has.Yes

Wadda ya mean I'm old ? Just because I remember gasoline at 9 cents a gallon and those big coal burning steamers.

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