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Can a DC engine run on a DCC Track?

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Can a DC engine run on a DCC Track?
Posted by hwolf on Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:12 PM

I have an old Brass DC Engine that I am going to convert to DCC.  I brought it to my LHS to make sure it would run.  It ran but needs to be serviced. I am going to service it but do not want to drive 20 miles again just to test it. I have a Prodigy Advance which only runs DCC.  If I put the Engine on the track will it run even thought I know I would not be able to control speed?

The Engine is a 2-8-0

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Posted by selector on Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:15 PM

Some DCC systems allow you to run a strictly DC engine on DCC rails.  Digitrax, for example, allows you to use the address "00" for this purpose.  Note that the motor is likely to make unpleasant sounds as its magnets get excited by the high frequency pulses emitted by the DCC system.

There is also some strong evidence that some DC engines don't fare well when left idle on DCC rails.  The motors have reportedly gotten so hot that they have melted the plastic or even softened solders.  So, most of us have learned to never leave them sitting on powered DCC rails for long.

I will have to let others answer you about the NCE systems and if they can run DC engines.

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Posted by Eric97123 on Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:15 PM

some systems can do under loco number 00.  Check the manual if you have it or the manual online.  That being said,  it is often recommended not to do it for long periods of time or leave the loco sitting on the track. 

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:29 PM

On NCE I believe there is no DC loco address 0 support.

On Digitrax and Lenz there is.  But it is NOT recommended as you risk burning out the motor if you let it sit at speed step 0 for too long.  Using a DC loco on a DCC track is really moderately safe for can motors.  Open frame and pancake motors are bad mojo.  You will definately overheat them.

Don - Specializing in layout DC->DCC conversions

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Posted by hwolf on Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:16 PM

Thanks. I guess I will be back in the car.  It is an open frame motor and my Prodigy Advance does not support a DC address.

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Posted by locoi1sa on Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:05 PM

You can use a battery out of one of those RC cars. Any DC voltage source around 12 volts will do even an old six volt lantern battery. Look at wall warts also for DC outputs. It is beneficial to pick up an old power pack from a discarded train/slot car set. These can be had cheap at yard sales and sometimes at the dumps swap shop will be a few.

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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:02 PM

 If you DO hook up a DC source to the track COMPLETELY DISCONNECT YOUR DCC SYSTEM FIRST. Applying DC power to the rails with the DCC system connected (even if it is NOT turned on!) is a quick way to fry said DCC system. NEVER EVER connect both power sources to the rails at once.

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