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wye ??
Posted by ollevon on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:57 PM

how is the wiring done on a  wye turnout ? What is needed?

 Not very good with wiring and electrical aps.

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Posted by locoi1sa on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:42 PM

  Are you asking about a single turnout or a wye that can turn a train around and head back the same direction? If it a single turnout then treat it like a regular turnout.

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Posted by selector on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:53 PM

The only difference between a true two-way (wye) turnout and a regular or curved one is that the two routes diverge, and they almost always do it mostly symmetrically.  That is, if you continue an imaginary axis up the middle of the stem, or entry track, and go on through the frog point and beyond, each exit should have its track center very close to the same distance from the imaginary axis as the other exit route's track center.  But they are identical wiring and routing-wise.   They can even be non-routing or routing, live or dead frog, just like all their various cousins.  Slip and lapped turnouts need a bit more brain power....and wiring.

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Posted by ollevon on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:21 PM

locoi1sa

  Are you asking about a single turnout or a wye that can turn a train around and head back the same direction? If it a single turnout then treat it like a regular turnout.

       Pete

 Yes, I am asking about a wye that can turn a train around and go back on the same track it came in on.

   Thanks

  Sam

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Posted by superbe on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:55 PM

ollevon

how is the wiring done on a  wye turnout ? What is needed?

 Not very good with wiring and electrical aps.

First let me say I'm not an expert on solving electrical problems but I do have two reversing loops.

I use a PS/AR on each of them from Tony's Trains  http://www.tonystrains.com/index.html

User Manual for Power Shield Auto Reverser PS/AR | Tech News at Tony's Train Exchange.
Tony's Intelligent Reverser unit provides auto-reversing for return loops, reversing Y’s and turntables. In addition, it provides overcurrent protection, which sectionalizes the controlled track area and prevents shutting down other parts of your layout when the track is shorted.

Instruction on wiring comes with it and of course the forum will guide you also.

You will need to isolate the loop by having gaps on each divergent route from the wye or use insulated rail joiners. Also keep in mind the the train length has to fit in the loop.

In addition consider getting a PS one circuit breaker to place between your power supply and the bus. This is to protect the power supply and the DCC controler from shorts out side the loop.

Good luck and

Happy Railroading

Bob

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:31 AM

ollevon

 locoi1sa:

  Are you asking about a single turnout or a wye that can turn a train around and head back the same direction? If it a single turnout then treat it like a regular turnout.

       Pete

 

 Yes, I am asking about a wye that can turn a train around and go back on the same track it came in on.

   Thanks

  Sam

Then, just gap the rails on the two legs of the wye track that lead into and out of the reversing loop to isolate the reversing section. 

Rich

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Posted by superbe on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:25 AM

superbe

 ollevon:

how is the wiring done on a  wye turnout ? What is needed?

 Not very good with wiring and electrical aps.

 

First let me say I'm not an expert on solving electrical problems but I do have two reversing loops.

I use a PS/AR on each of them from Tony's Trains  http://www.tonystrains.com/index.html

User Manual for Power Shield Auto Reverser PS/AR | Tech News at Tony's Train Exchange.
Tony's Intelligent Reverser unit provides auto-reversing for return loops, reversing Y’s and turntables. In addition, it provides overcurrent protection, which sectionalizes the controlled track area and prevents shutting down other parts of your layout when the track is shorted.

Instruction on wiring comes with it and of course the forum will guide you also.

You will need to isolate the loop by having gaps on each divergent route from the wye or use insulated rail joiners. Also keep in mind the the train length has to fit in the loop.

In addition consider getting a PS one circuit breaker to place between your power supply and the bus. This is to protect the power supply and the DCC controler from shorts out side the loop.

Good luck and

Happy Railroading

Bob

Please disregard what I wrote.

Rereading your post and others has made me question whether you have a true reversing loop or just a loop. A true reversing loop would be indicated if you traced the outside rail for example and when you completed the loop it met the inside rail. Otherwise it would just be a loop.

Whether you need to treat this in any way I'll leave it up to others to advise you.

I'd still get the PS1! curicuit breaker for insurance and also a multimeter to check your wiring. It is good to have one in your tool box. They are cheap and easy to use and are available at Radio Shack or hardware stores with an electrical section

Happy Railroading

Bob

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Posted by richhotrain on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:08 PM

The OP says that he is asking about a wye that can turn a train around and go back on the same track it came in on.  So, it is a reversing loop.  He needs to gap both rails on each of the two diverging legs of the wye track.

Rich

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Posted by locoi1sa on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:06 PM

  Do not assume the OP is running DCC. The PSX will not work on a DC layout.

  A double throw double pole toggle will be needed for a DC layout. Gaping of the rails is the same.  You can totally isolate one leg of the wye or both legs. If you isolate both legs then that leaves room in the block for switching an industry or something else without constantly flipping polarity. There are resources on the web that explains it in depth. Just google reverse loop wiring schematics. Here is one from the NMRA. http://www.nmra.org/beginner/wiring.html

    Pete

 I pray every day I break even, Cause I can really use the money!

 I started with nothing and still have most of it left!

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