Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Grinding/Milling N-Scale fuel tank of frame to mount the DCC speaker

6699 views
9 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Australia
  • 17 posts
Grinding/Milling N-Scale fuel tank of frame to mount the DCC speaker
Posted by Little_Red_Caboose on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:07 PM

Has anyone had any success in grinding out a shape in the fuel tank part of the frame for mounting a DCC Sound decoder speaker? I read in the instructions to use a rotary tool. I tried with my rotary tool and it didn't even make a scratch! What are the frames made of (Atlas Dash-8) anyway? The are incredibly hard. Can I use a bench grinder or a hand grinder with a metal disk? Or will these destroy the frame? Has anyone successfully done it? I have been searching all over the net and can't find a web sight that will explain how to do it with what tools.

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Christiana, TN
  • 2,134 posts
Posted by CSX Robert on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:07 PM
Another option to grinding it out yourself is to purchase a frame from Aztec Frames.
  • Member since
    July 2008
  • 1,206 posts
Posted by mfm37 on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:53 PM

 I've cut them with a Dremel and a rotary cutter blade. It looks like a small circular saw blade. Be careful. If you hang an edge the cutter will fly out and do serious damage to your fingers and hands. I've also used an end mill in my drill press which is a PITA to get set up.

Now I use Aztec. John's turn around is fast and his prices are very reasonable. He could cut a box full of frames for less than the doctor would charge to stitch a finger.

 

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Australia
  • 17 posts
Posted by Little_Red_Caboose on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:24 AM

 

Yes I have thought about Aztec, but I live in Australia (which is on the other side of the planet to Aztec), and the shipping costs would well and truely outway the amount they charge. I just want to know if it is OK to use a bench grinder on them, before I find out the hard way if it was a bod or good idea?
  • Member since
    July 2008
  • 1,206 posts
Posted by mfm37 on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:02 AM

 This is the high speed cutter I've used in my dremel:

http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Pop-ups/Pages/ProductImages.aspx?pid=199&tab=1

 

  • Member since
    October 2002
  • From: City of Québec,Canada
  • 1,258 posts
Posted by Jacktal on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:17 AM

Then your second best option would be asking a local machinist.He likely knows nothing about model trains but still,he's got the knowledge and proper tooling to do it.And it may not be so expensive after all.However,like David said,it's not a good idea to start with.

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Australia
  • 17 posts
Posted by Little_Red_Caboose on Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:02 AM

Thanks mfm37 - the dremel tool (number 199 - if anyone is looking for one), worked just fine. It was quite a simple task to machine out the speaker shape with this tool. First I used my Bench Grinder to take out the bulk of the material, then I fine tuned the fitting with the Dremel #199. I hope that it is of use to others who want to shape the frame themselves, as it didn't take long (about an hour - all done). Anyone else who is contemplating this - just be carefull to only take our the depth (thickness of the speaker)required to fit the speaker in. If you take out to much hight in the frame you will weaken the bit on the other side of the frame that holds in the sprung copper contact strip.

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • 327 posts
Posted by locoworks on Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:00 AM

also VERY important is to totally strip the chassis before you start grinding. do not attempt any grinding or cutting with the motor and gear towers/bogies  installed. better still is to take the chassis outsidce to do it so no little bits of metal can find their way into mechanisms. and also clean the frame well afterwards to make sure there are no stray bits of metal statically attatched.

  • Member since
    July 2008
  • 1,206 posts
Posted by mfm37 on Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:31 PM

 Don't forget to clean up when finished cutting. I place all of the parts except the frames in zip lock bags to keep any flying debris away. IAfter cutting,  vacuum all around and usually change my shirt to keep the particles out of the mechanism. A bath in soap and water scrubbing with an old toothbrush cleans the frames. A little compressed air speeds drying.

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!