I have done the reset via jumper removal and reinstall several times, I have done the CV reset.
Here's what I get: at jumper removal reinstall I get audio feedback saying "Reset" but I don't get the three whistle sequence that I'm supposed to get per BLI operator's manual. When audio "reset" is done loco goes into idle(neutral) mode and cannot be moved from that state via double click of F6. Won't respond to any function keys, just makes sounds of idle(neutral) state.
I have another Hudson that is from initial production run(the one BLI offerred a $99 fix on), can I interchange tenders and/or engines between old issue and new issue without inducing more problems?
The Hudson that's giving me problems was running fine for some time and suddenly this problem popped up. At this point any suggestions will be most welcome.
I just tried loco on DC. On DC it starts up with neutral state sounds and responds to throttle(in forward direction only!?); it also makes chuffing sound while moving forward. Retried DCC after DC and got same problem response as initially noted above.
I have multiple other sound engines on layout(BLI, P2K, Atlas and Spectrum Tsunami) and all operate fine...so ???
Thanks,
Jon
If they are both the QSI sound versions, then the tenders should be identical other than any decoder programming you've done. All the electronics is in the tender, the wires to the loco are for power pickups, motor drive, and the headlight. There should be no problem swapping them out - any problem the one is having is going to be in the decoder, not something in the loco itself.
You ARE remembering to switch the jumper plug back after the reset, right? Otherwise it just stays in rest mode and won't run.
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Randy,
I'm following BLI recommended procedure,
Turn off power
Remove jumper
Reapply power, the whistle will sound with a series of 3 hoots after a few seconds.(i'm getting audio saying "reset", no hoots)
Turn power off and reinstall jumper.
Reapply power.............(It now stays in rest mode and won't run, do have sounds appropriate to idle/neutral mode. When I did the reset procedure in analog I was able to run engine in one direction with chuffing; wouldn't reverse direction).
In one of the several resets in DCC I was able to run loco a short distance then it "dropped out" again.
I assumed there wouldn't be a problem switching tenders and locos but wasn't entirely comfortable with my assumption. Appreciate confirmation it's OK.
Still perplexed,
I've sent an eMail to BLI service this morning describing situation. Maybe they'll come up with something.
In going over the same ground again something struck me in your response. You wrote,"You are remembering to switch..........right? Otherwise it just stays in rest mode and won't run." I'm wondering if the jumper is the key because the loco certainly behaves as though the jumper plug wasn't reinstalled.
You can see from the direction of my thinking I'm at the "grasping at straws stage". How could a jumper plug be screwed up? Considering the electronics involved a jumper plug should be the last thing to give a problem. There also is the fact that though I get the audible "reset", I don't get the 3 whistle hoots indicating a successful reset to default values.
I'll post when I get BLI response.
A jumper is about as simple as can be - but it IS two pieces - a plastic outer shell with a small piece of metal inside to connect the two pins it sits over. I've seen them come apart, where you pull the plastic piece off and the metal stays connecting the pins. Make sure this isn't happening - and when you place it shorting the pins it really is connecting both pins - it's easy to put it off to the side so it only goes down over 1 of the pins.
However - if you get the verbal readout of 'reset' when you do this, if the jumper was not getting replaced properly, it would say 'reset' every time you turned on the power.
Received reply form BLI Service. As you seemed to suggest they believe the problem lies with the decoder. I did try your last suggestion re multiple inputs via F6 and no result-loco continues to sit in neutral mode. Since the loco was running fine for some time(less than a year) before problem occurred I told them I didn't expect them to back a decoder problem. Realistically with shipping back and forth to BLI it probably is easier to order a new QSI chip.
I switched out tenders and engines with the 2 Hudsons I have and that resulted in another affirmation of a decoder problem. One last switch to be made and if result is the same I'll order a new QSI upgrade chip. I'll keep you posted on progress(or lack thereof).
Thanks yet again for your suggestions,