does anyone know what causes inttermitted stop and starting they are installed in b manns shay s and riverossi heisler, the track is clean .I have other units that run fine on this track I put them on the mainline and still stop and start checked all connections which is hard wired to the decoder s ,the wheels are clean.
I use these decoders.
Are the loco wheels clean? How are the pickups at the wheels? How many wheels pickup? Are the pickups hard wired to the decoder? I have not seen the pickups on theses locos.
Do you have the stay alive capacitor in place? The instructions mention the stay alive capacitor.
Stay alive info link below. Store the link in the Favorites folder. This has been discussed ad nauseum in the Yahoo SoundTraxx DCC forum.
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mainnorth/alive.htm
Rich
If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.
the cap is connected to yell-grn and blue wires as per instructions i called sound traxx they said to replace the pick-ups with a phosfer - copper material which improves track -up b mann has a poor pickup system for these models .
davidmbedardHow where the installs done? I have done many of these for my customers with narry an issue.Are you sure the caps were not installed backwards? David B
How where the installs done? I have done many of these for my customers with narry an issue.
Are you sure the caps were not installed backwards?
David B
Electrolytic capacitors do not like reverse voltage. Think large current flow, maybe decoder smoke. Very hard on the full wave bridge rectifier that track current passes though before reaching the delicate electronics. One person on another dcc group installed the cap reversed and smoked the decoder, plus the capacitor innards where inside the tender. Yes, I know some people do not believe that can happen.
mmartian22the cap is connected to yell-grn and blue wires as per instructions i called sound traxx they said to replace the pick-ups with a phosfer - copper material which improves track -up b mann has a poor pickup system for these models .
That sounds like a good suggestion but I would still go with all tender wheel pickup as I did with my Spectrums. My Roundhouse all come factory equipped with all tender wheel pickup.
dave the rf caps are not cut all i was told by b mann was to just plug it in or hard wire in .on the light board where are those caps on the board?
rechecked wires to cap s this is what i got for the 750 yell-grn is neg , blue is plus
mmartian22dave the rf caps are not cut all i was told by b mann was to just plug it in or hard wire in .on the light board where are those caps on the board?
Hope this helps.
http://www.gatewaynmra.org/dcc/engines/bach-shay.htm
the shay works thank you now the climax which has two caps in it cut both or one ,but which one if cutting one this one is supposed to be dcc ready it has leds lites . that website is great
Some Bachmann PC boards have two capacitors, usually labeled C1 & C2 right next to each other. Some PC boards only have C1. Cut both. For info, a label of R1 means a resistor. L1 means and inductor. Standard PC board labeling.
thanks rich i will cut them off tomorrow and see what happens my riverossi seems be a contact problem i think
Here is a photo of a PC board in the Spectrum 4-6-0 that was DCC Ready. You can see the DC adapter, tiny Surface mount resistors, Surface mount diode, leaded capacitors next to two leaded molded inductors. There are two Surface mount diodes under the board are hidden. I cut the capacitor after the photo.
If you look close, you can see three resistors and a diode for the LED headlight. Some boards have two resistors and a diode.
Why Bachmann has a capacitor for the LED, I have no idea.
I see wire wound inductors with no coating for your PC board. I have those in a Spectrum 44 ton diesel.
the climax appears to have the same board i cut both cap s off and it still starts and stop .but not as bad , also going to add pick up strips to the tender in hopes this will work.. the heisler i haven't got it. but thinking about pulling thr board out and hard wiring it
Clean wheels and good pickups would be a good help. If you ever need any phosphor bronze, I have a four inch wide roll about ten feet long of 0.002 thick phosphor bronze material. I could send you a little in an envelope for free.
The Bachmann Shay has both caps and inductors on the DC/DCC bridge card. The caps need to be cut. The inductors can all be removed and replaced with a bridge wire.
They are all part of the noise suppression section that is poinless in a DCC environment. The noise suppression is mainly for DC only.
Marc
i cut the caps. and inductors but still didn't work. so ipulled the board and hardwired it in . i also added contacts to the tender. it still doesn't run quite right. but it runs better than what it did