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Proto 2000 barely moves

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Proto 2000 barely moves
Posted by elansp on Thursday, May 7, 2009 10:21 PM
All- I recently got around to opening up a Proto 2000 SD60 engine. Installed a Digitrax DH165L0 decoder and the engine barely moves. Reset all CVs, tweaked CVs and no matter what I seemed to do I can never get the engine to run at a decent speed (i.e. can't get it above approximately 30% of projected top end speed). I do not hear any grinding or other strange sounds. Any ideas what could be causing the slow speed? Any ideas how to resolve? Thanks in advance,
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, May 8, 2009 6:46 AM

Did you run the engine before you installed the decoder?  Was it OK on DC?

Was this a plug-in decoder installation, or did you wire it yourself?  I'd re-check the wiring, although it's hard to think of a mis-wire that would behave that way.  Old gunked-up grease would certainly make it do this, so I'd go with David's suggestion first.

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Posted by elansp on Friday, May 8, 2009 8:58 AM

Thanks.  I will give it a go.  Taking these P2K engines apart are a pain in the ***.  :-)

 

 

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:35 AM

Not sure about that decoder, but I know some decoders have an option where hitting a particular function button turns on "yard speed" which roughly cuts the engines speed in half over the entire speed range. Maybe something like that got turned on??

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Posted by JoeinPA on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:55 AM

 The DH165LO supports the "switching speed" function.  It is controlled by CV 54 (The factory default is OFF).  When turned ON F6 toggles it on and off.  When ON it cuts the set speed by about 1/2.

 

Joe

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Posted by elansp on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:52 AM

I didn't realize this - thanks for pointing it out - but I don't think this is the issue given that I reset the decoder and it performed the same....

 

 

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Posted by elansp on Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:20 PM

Before I disassembled the wheels and gears, I swapped decoders just to make sure it wasn't a decoder issue - it wasn't.  I pulled apart the gears and noticed that there was no oil/grease on them.  I've thrown wheels and gears into soapy water and will dry off completely.  I will then throw on a couple of pea size drops of plastic friendly grease on the gears, a drop of oil on the ends of the wheels and give it a whirl.  I will let you know how it works out.

 

 

 

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:32 PM

 Sound like the way I get my BLI engines! Angry

 While you have the trucks apart, get some Pearl White Tooth Paste and run it in the gears. Will polish the gears so they need less power and are quieter to boot!

 Here is a link about it.

 http://www.mcor-nmra.org/Publications/Articles/Athearn_TuneUp.html

 I know it is about Athearn engines, but when you get right down to it every engine made to day is a knock off of a Athearn.

                  Cuda Ken

I hate Rust

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