First, thanks to all who have helped me with my start into DCC! I have the Zephyr system, with two locos converted so far. I happened upon a schematic on the Team Digital support page (old link) for what appears to be a home built MS-100. I have access to the parts at work... I'm just wondering if anyone has tried to build this or use it? Thanks in advance for your help.
-Eric
Welcome Eric, if you can build one more power to you and if parts are free, go for it. I bought the new Digitrax PR 3 for $59.99. Besides doing the MS 100 functions it can down load sound and program Digitrax sound decoders.
With the Internet time the PR 3 is getting, they should start flying off the shelfs.
Cuda Ken
I hate Rust
cudaken Welcome Eric, if you can build one more power to you and if parts are free, go for it. I bought the new Digitrax PR 3 for $59.99. Besides doing the MS 100 functions it can down load sound and program Digitrax sound decoders. With the Internet time the PR 3 is getting, they should start flying off the shelfs. Cuda Ken
Ken I also program QSI sound decoders with the PR3.
Jack W.
Thanks to Ken I bought the PR3, one of the best things since slice bread. I had to put it away for awhile. I've been working all winter on my scenery and an addition to my layout, playing with the PR3 I wasn't getting anything done. About 2 weeks and I can start running trains again! Thanks Ken for advising me on it! Jim
Jack, Simon and I where wondering about programing QSI sounds I hate the sound of my Proto 2000 E-7 with QSI.
Jim, I will be hooking up my PR 3 Sunday, I had to work 6 days this week and pretty much bushed. Did you get your RSD 15's? If so PM me and maybe we can talk again this Sunday.
I will see if I can scan some pictures of me and the Thompson and post them.
Your friend Cuda Ken
Ken, last Thursday I programmed one P2K RS10 and one P2K S8 with the PR3, a piece of cake.
I will try a Blue Line this Wednesday night I will let you know how it went.
jalajoieKen I also program QSI sound decoders with the PR3.
cudaken Jack, Simon and I where wondering about programing QSI sounds I hate the sound of my Proto 2000 E-7 with QSI.
Absolutely csxrobert, sorry if I was misleading. The PR3 will only download Digitrax sound.
Ken,
I am also thinking of getting a PR3. Am I correct that this allows one to use a laptop (or any PC) to program any NMRA complient decoder (sound or not)? Does this adaptor also allow you to run your trains with the PC?
Thanks
Todd
OntarioTodd Ken, I am also thinking of getting a PR3. Am I correct that this allows one to use a laptop (or any PC) to program any NMRA complient decoder (sound or not)?
I am also thinking of getting a PR3. Am I correct that this allows one to use a laptop (or any PC) to program any NMRA complient decoder (sound or not)?
It allows you to program the CV's on just about any DCC decoder. I say "just about" because I (and nobody I know of) haven't tried programming "all" DCC decoders. But it's made short work of anything I've tried so far.
However, it will only download sound to Digitrax decoders. That's because there are no NMRA specs for that, so each manufacturer uses their own method.
OntarioToddDoes this adaptor also allow you to run your trains with the PC? Thanks Todd
Does this adaptor also allow you to run your trains with the PC?
If you mean when connected to a Digitrax DCC system, the answer is Absolutely Yes.
If you mean stand-alone, I've heard that it has enough "oomph" to drive a loco. However, I have never tried doing that with mine so I can't say for sure one way or the other.
Steve
Stevert OntarioTodd Ken, I am also thinking of getting a PR3. Am I correct that this allows one to use a laptop (or any PC) to program any NMRA complient decoder (sound or not)? It allows you to program the CV's on just about any DCC decoder. I say "just about" because I (and nobody I know of) haven't tried programming "all" DCC decoders. But it's made short work of anything I've tried so far. However, it will only download sound to Digitrax decoders. That's because there are no NMRA specs for that, so each manufacturer uses their own method. OntarioTodd Does this adaptor also allow you to run your trains with the PC? Thanks Todd If you mean when connected to a Digitrax DCC system, the answer is Absolutely Yes. If you mean stand-alone, I've heard that it has enough "oomph" to drive a loco. However, I have never tried doing that with mine so I can't say for sure one way or the other. Steve
OntarioTodd Does this adaptor also allow you to run your trains with the PC? Thanks Todd
In stand-alone mode with a sound decoder it will drive the loco for a brief moment before tripping. After a few seconds the loco can again be driven for a brief moment before tripping and so on.
I did not try with a non sound decoder.
OntarioTodd am also thinking of getting a PR3. Am I correct that this allows one to use a laptop (or any PC) to program any NMRA complicated decoder (sound or not)? Does this adapter also allow you to run your trains with the PC?
Todd, I am sort of the wrong person to ask, but from what I have read and seen the PR 3 with the right free software will let you run your train from your computer. Depending on how complicated you may want to get like running 2 to 3 engines on a line, pre program turnouts and the like you will need other bench hardware like detection blocks and decoders for turnouts. It is the starting point for computer control.
Far as thinking about, don't just get it. I may never go computer control but hope to. But, it will make changing CV's so much easier.
Todd if you want to run your trains with a computer and even using PR3 you have to download "JMRI Decoder Pro". The JMRI program contains 2 parts Panel Pro and Decoder Pro. Here's a video link I think you might enjoy and see how simple it is to use. Watch all 4 video's, very informative. They show you step by step how to build your roster and even control everything including speed, operate turnouts, simple consisting, layout lights, etc. via computer. I won't be hooking up to a computer anytime soon to run my layout but I do appreciate the speed of adjusting cv's. I have a 2 ft piece of track on a 1x4 and just hook up the decoder pro and plug it in the USB on the computer and "play". It's great!
Oh and by the way, they keep adding decoders to JMRI and other goody's almost ever couple of weeks, so make sure you check in on their web site once in a while and download the updates, very important. I am just starting with it and followed the instructions to download the 2.4A, I believe version, which they recommend for beginners.
http://vps2642.inmotionhosting.com/~modelr5/index.php?q=mrht_decoderpro
cudaken Jack, Simon and I where wondering about programing QSI sounds I hate the sound of my Proto 2000 E-7 with QSI. Jim, I will be hooking up my PR 3 Sunday, I had to work 6 days this week and pretty much bushed. Did you get your RSD 15's? If so PM me and maybe we can talk again this Sunday. I will see if I can scan some pictures of me and the Thompson and post them. Your friend Cuda Ken
Ken did you get my PM ???????
jalajoie Absolutely csxrobert, sorry if I was misleading. The PR3 will only download Digitrax sound.
If you scroll down on the digitrax site it explains using the JMRI Decoder Pro FREE download, and with the PR3 you can adjust cv's in most sound decoders, some I never heard of. Here is a list of the decoders that have been tried and work with the program:
http://jmri.sourceforge.net/xml/XSLT/pages/decoderIndex.html
Rangerover jalajoie Absolutely csxrobert, sorry if I was misleading. The PR3 will only download Digitrax sound. If you scroll down on the digitrax site it explains using the JMRI Decoder Pro FREE download, and with the PR3 you can adjust cv's in most sound decoders, some I never heard of. Here is a list of the decoders that have been tried and work with the program: http://jmri.sourceforge.net/xml/XSLT/pages/decoderIndex.html
The distinction here, as was mentioned in an earlier response, is that you can program (i.e. change, read CVs) any sound/nonsound decoder with a PR3 but you can only download new sound files to Digitrax decoders. This is because each manufacturer has their own format for changing sound files on their decoders. With Digitrax sound decoders you can also test the function keys, throttling up the unit to hear the different sounds etc...
Engineer Jeff NS Nut Visit my layout at: http://www.thebinks.com/trains/
I watched the JMRI videos and I am sold. I will definetely pick up a PR3. Do I also need to purchase another power supply to run the PR3? If so, how much are they?
OntarioTodd I watched the JMRI videos and I am sold. I will definetely pick up a PR3. Do I also need to purchase another power supply to run the PR3? If so, how much are they? Todd
Todd go here, this is where I got mine and it was $10.95 and I received in in about 3 days!
http://www.traintekllc.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=DTX-PS14&Category_Code=DTXPWR&Store_Code=TTK&utm_source=google%20product%20search&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=mm_seo
Digitrax recommend the PS14 at $12.95 US. One could find it for $10.00 US street price. A power supply with the same output can be purchased for 4.95$ CND, from an electronic outlet.
Engineer Jeff...
I do apologize for my post...I didn't realize you could download sounds, but do realize it's with the Digitrax deocder's only now, but you can still adjust cv's for other sound decoders with the 2 programs. LOL sometimes I'm glad I make mistakes..... or...... well..... learning experiences. I'm just learning about all this though. I have been running my trains with the Bachmann EZ Command for 4 years. I am so impressed with Digitrax, I may very well go ahead and go that route. I always thought that adjusting or changing cv's was too complicated...boy was I wrong and how much better you can tweek the loco's. See that at 65 I can still learn and don't have to reinvent the wheel, and thanks to those like yourself with much more experience! I try not to lead anybody in a wrong direction and post only my experience.
Rangerover Engineer Jeff... I do apologize for my post...I didn't realize you could download sounds, but do realize it's with the Digitrax deocder's only now, but you can still adjust cv's for other sound decoders with the 2 programs. LOL sometimes I'm glad I make mistakes..... or...... well..... learning experiences. I'm just learning about all this though. I have been running my trains with the Bachmann EZ Command for 4 years. I am so impressed with Digitrax, I may very well go ahead and go that route. I always thought that adjusting or changing cv's was too complicated...boy was I wrong and how much better you can tweek the loco's. See that at 65 I can still learn and don't have to reinvent the wheel, and thanks to those like yourself with much more experience! I try not to lead anybody in a wrong direction and post only my experience.
I am the other way. I buy it and then figure out how it works In my case I bought the PR3 for downloading sound files to Digitrax sound decoders. Because I already had the Locobuffer II adapter I didn't think I would use the PR3 for anything else. Once I realized I could program ecoders with the PR3 on my bench and never have to touch my layout, the PR3 now sits on my bench and I do 90%+ of my programming there with the PR3 and JMRI. I store all of my configurations with JMRI so that if a unit ever loses its programming (or someone I know screws it up badly), I can easily restore it to original working order.
Jim, I did not get your PM for some reason. If you retire your E-Z get the Super Empire Builder, as I told you on the phone the DT 400 hand held throttle is kick caboose. Down side to the SEB is you can only control F functions to 8 I think. But, with Loco net hooked to the PR 3 you can control all the F functions a decoder has.
Guess I will not be getting and checks from Bachmann anytime soon!
I still think the Bachmann E-Z is a great way to get started, add in a PR 3 and the system will do 85% of what most folks want to do.
Jim, PM me again and tell me the best time to call you Monday.
Your friend Ken
I have a Digitrax system DCS200 which I have hooked up to my laptop which is running the TrainController Bronze software. The problem is that it is not working. I have tried the acclaimed PR3 to connect it with a USB...I have tried the MS100 with an adapter to USB, but my laptop does not have a serial port. When I check the device manager on the computer all of the drivers and ports seem to be installed properly and there seems to be some bit exchange between the computer and Digitrax, but I am not able to run trains.
Has anyone had this problem with Digitrax and this software program? What am I doing wrong? I have called tech support for both and there has been no resolution.
Any advice is much appreciated.
You have to follow EXACTLY the instructions for installing the drivers for the PR3. You might want to go into Device Manager and remove ALL references to the PR3 or virtual serial ports and start over.
Also, the PR3 can operate in two modes. One emulatrs the MS100 and allows you co control your DCS, the other is standalone program mode. If the PR3 is in standalone program mode, it won't communicate to the DCS.
Finally, try a different USB cable with the PR3, there have been reports of the included cable being bad out of the box.
--Randy
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yep Im one with the a bad cable ,drove me nuts till I tryed one I had layen around...Jerry