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8 PIN ON Walters Proto 2000 H10-44

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8 PIN ON Walters Proto 2000 H10-44
Posted by cgwfan2 on Friday, January 30, 2009 8:50 PM
I've been installing decoders in engines for about five years and never have run across this problem. The holes in the 8 pin connector are too large to plug a 8 pin decoder into. Has any one experienced this problem? Did my friend purchase an odd ball unit. Thanks for your help in advance.
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Posted by Flashwave on Friday, January 30, 2009 9:26 PM

Hmm. If you have one, a digital picture or pictures of the plug posed nearly perpendicular to the socket might be of assistance. I've not heard of this from friends running H-10s. I'm presuminbg you mean he 2x4 set of holes is spaced too far? or the holes are too big to maintain a tight loc to hold the decoder plugs in? If the former,I would suggest calling Walthers. Wel,, not this minute, you might wait until they open. If the latter, then you might try a tiny dab of solder on the plugs individually, being careful not to let them touch each other. Tjis would help to thinckent eh posts and lock the decoder in. Otherwise, I'm confused

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Posted by cgwfan2 on Friday, January 30, 2009 10:12 PM
The holes are too large for the pins to maintain a tight lock. In fact, the pins float in the holes.
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Posted by B&Mbarn on Friday, January 30, 2009 10:31 PM

 

I don't know if this is realistic , but would it be possible to put a slight bend in each pin so that when inserted, the deflection would cause contact with the wall of each hole. I've used this technique on larger electrical connectors.
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Posted by MICHAEL SHEPPY on Friday, November 6, 2015 1:58 PM

The 8 holes for the decoder pins are oversize, so the usual decoders flop around in them. Are any DCC decoders made with large pins to fit Walthers 8-pin DCC ready boards?

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, November 7, 2015 1:42 PM

 I'm with David, if the pins flop around in the holes then there is a part missing. The pins and sockets are standard electronic industry items and I've never heard of one or the other being a different size.

 Simple solution - remove the factory board and just hardwire a decoder.

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, November 7, 2015 2:41 PM

I imagine the OP has probably figured it out since posting this nearly 7 years ago...

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 7, 2015 4:51 PM

tstage

I imagine the OP has probably figured it out since posting this nearly 7 years ago...

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Hey, you never know, Tom.   Laugh

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, November 8, 2015 10:38 AM

 Yeah but there is the followup guy with the same problem, that one is fron 2 days ago.

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Posted by chuck smart on Saturday, November 2, 2019 12:29 PM

Sure, you are meant to solder in a socket for 8 pins, then plug an 8 pin decoder  into that.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 2, 2019 4:13 PM

I'll betcha that the OP has been sitting on pins and needles waiting for a reply - - going on 11 years now. Dead

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Posted by CNR378 on Saturday, November 2, 2019 4:37 PM

richhotrain

I'll betcha that the OP has been sitting on pins and needles waiting for a reply - - going on 11 years now. Dead

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Sunday, November 3, 2019 6:48 AM

Wow, a double necro topic! That’s a first!

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, November 3, 2019 7:15 AM

Chuck, at least, came up with a definitive answer.

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, November 3, 2019 10:50 AM

 I dunno, the right answer when it is guaranteed to work is to remove the factory circuit board, which in more cases than I care to think about are just wrong, and wire a decoder right in. Then you know each wire is going to the right place.

I seriously doubt they meant to leave off the socket, either a previous owner removed it or it was just an oversight at the factory.

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, November 3, 2019 10:51 AM

I think that Randy provided the definitive answer four years ago when the 2009 thread was revived for the first time.

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Posted by rrebell on Monday, November 11, 2019 10:55 AM

What you don't relize is that what is standard today, was not always standard, it became that way.

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 9:37 AM

 The NMRA 8 pin socket goes back to the earliest days of DCC. Either Walthers saved a penny by not including the socket, expecting people to just stick the wires of a wired decoder in the holes and solder them to the board, or someone forgot to fit the socket when the board was made.

 The one thing that is still not standard is what "DCC Ready" means. Still can mean anythign from "it will take you longer to open the loco than to actually install a decoder" to "you have to completely rewire the loco to make it work AND not fry decoders"

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Posted by rrebell on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:26 AM

yes but in the early days manufactures did their own thing as far as dcc, regardless of the NMRA all trying to become the standard.

 

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