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QSI v7 vs ESC Question

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QSI v7 vs ESC Question
Posted by Osibisa on Saturday, July 5, 2008 11:48 AM

I have a Athearn BB SD40-2 in which I have installed a LokSound decoder. At speed step 1, you hear the engine notch up and then the locomotive begins movement. My question is can this same performance be achieved on my Atlas Gold B30-7 or any QSI equipped loco for that matter? The short delay between change in engine sound and movement really adds to realism.

Thanks,

Bruce 

   

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Posted by Osibisa on Saturday, July 5, 2008 1:02 PM
Agreed, but is it possible to achieve the same delay between pitch change and movement?
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Posted by Osibisa on Saturday, July 5, 2008 5:46 PM
That's too bad, well thanks for checking though.
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Posted by Rotorranch on Sunday, July 6, 2008 3:30 PM

Would a momentum adjustment do it?

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Posted by Osibisa on Monday, July 7, 2008 12:27 PM
Yeah that's right, I'll have to live with it but another thing that's bothering me is my inability to get the loco to creep slower at speed step 1.
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Posted by Last Chance on Monday, July 7, 2008 11:52 PM

Desiels transition at a certain speed. My NW's do it at about 18 mph or so scale. It has to do with changing how the electricity runs across the traction motors.

I use heavy momentum settings to "Load" the engine before it starts to move.

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:11 PM

A 1:1 scale SD40-2 should transition around 22-30 mph, depending on age, and how the circuits are set up.  The newer ones transition later.  With 25 mph track speed, many times you are going in and out of transition.  Usually going into notch one at any speed will cause it to come out of transition.

I think it would be neat on a ESU decoder, if you take the throttle to full from a stop (on a turbo EMD), you would hear the engine try to wind up, choke, die, alarm bells ring and the engine stop. Wink [;)]  Not sure how much programming that would take.

 

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Posted by jbinkley60 on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 9:27 PM

 

I just got an E-mail from Litchfield Station tonight that they are shipping the QSI Revolution decoders now.   This is a long time coming.  It will be interesting to get some feedback from from folks as they deploy them in their fleets.

 

 

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Posted by 1948PRR on Friday, July 18, 2008 1:14 PM

I was a huge QSI fan until I put a Loksound micro in my P2K S1, and tweaked the settings. I just couldn't believe how realistic the RPM to movement relationship was. It revs up before moving, notches and falls back down, and the RPMs fall well before the loco slows to a stop.

I tried for hours and days to get my brand new BLI NW2 to behave in a similar fashon, but it just wouldn't do it. The thing that irritates me the most, is that after you cut the throttle, the RPMS stay up until after it's stopped. Very unprototypical IMO.

That pretty much made my decision to standardize as much as possible on Loksound for diesels, even at the rather steep price. I haven't got a Revolution, yet, but price is close. Thw QSI steam stuff is still great. I have kitbash steam projects that I'll try the QR in. So far I'm not entirely keen on Loksound steam.

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