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Problem with Bachmann DCC Onboard loco and Digitrax DCS50 Controller

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Problem with Bachmann DCC Onboard loco and Digitrax DCS50 Controller
Posted by Scott Schultz on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:08 PM
Greetings! I am fairly new to model railroading and I apologize if this question has been asked before. Here's what's going on...

I added a Digitrax Zephyr Controller system to my small layout. I retrofitted a DC loco with a Digitrax controller and as one would expect, it works as expected. I then bought a Bachmann Spectrum loco with DCC Onboard. I can control it with the controller, but I can not change any of the CV's or even the address. When I put it on the programming track, the controller returns a "d nd" message which means that it has detected an open circuit on the programming track and no current draw is detected.

A basic Digitrax decoder is actually pretty cheap so I will probably just end up pulling the Bachmann decoder unless one of you seasoned vets can help me troubleshoot my issue.

Thanks in advance!
Scott
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Posted by river_eagle on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:46 PM

I don't know, I have not had any problems programming Bachmann DCC on Board locos with the Zephyr in either page or OPS mode, maybe try a reset on the main in OPS mode. The decoder is made for Bachmann by Lenz.

If you do change decoders make sure that all the capacitors are removed from the loco, some of them have the caps mounted on the board, and some have them mounted directly to the motor across the brush caps

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Posted by simon1966 on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:51 PM
If I recall, some of the Bachmann DCC on board locos used a version of the basic Lenz decoder.  I have had the exact same d nd issue with these.  From what I understand they don't offer enough resistance so the Zephyr thinks that there is an open circuit.  If you bridge the 2 program track rails with a 1K ohm resistor it will very likely work. This is what was suggested to me and I have since had no issues with these decoders.

Simon Modelling CB&Q and Wabash See my slowly evolving layout on my picturetrail site http://www.picturetrail.com/simontrains and our videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispybake?feature=mhum

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Posted by UpNorth on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:26 PM

Change the OPSSW #7 on your Digitrax Zephyr to C. This will enable the blast mode on the Zephyr. You'll find " how too " in your Zephyr manual.

This OPSSW #7 is not documented in Digitrax book but it is mentionned on Digitrax and JMRI yahoo  support forums. Other than that you may require a program track booster such as the PowerPax.  I don't use one on my Zephyr thow.

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Posted by Scott Schultz on Friday, May 30, 2008 2:22 AM

Thanks for the tip about the resistor... it did the trick!

Scott 

 

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Posted by loathar on Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:08 AM
Confused [%-)] I know the decoder that came in my Bach GP35 is an NCE.(???)

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