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UPDATE: New to DCC: Plug in Decoder Here?? BAD SOUND..

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UPDATE: New to DCC: Plug in Decoder Here?? BAD SOUND..
Posted by Gerome on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:46 PM

This is the circuit board on a new old stock P2K FA1 loco.

The box does not say DCC ready.  And this 8-pin socket on it has an 8 pin plug in making the connections.

Can I plug a NMRA plug-equipped decoder in there, or do I have to snip this board away and hard wire the decoder (which is the way I have done it in the past) ?

Thanks for any responses.

(I am going to replace the incandescent bulb with a LED+resistor assembly)

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:08 PM
If your FA-1 is like mine then the 8-pin plug is soldered to the light board. I've wondered about this myself.

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Posted by ianalsop on Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:39 PM

It's hard to tell from the photo but if you can, check that the wires going into the P2K 8 pin socket correspond to the NMRA standard pins for decoders by tracing them back to the motor, lights etc.

Most are ok, but a number of Proto models appear to have standard 8 hole sockets, but the wires leading to the pins on the decoder don't always match.

I know from experience - ah the smell of fried decoder!

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Posted by Gerome on Friday, April 18, 2008 9:43 AM

Well, ianalsop you were right.  I could see a few functions that the sockets on this loco were connected to, but noticed that all the wiring was not coded properly....black wires to lights etc.

Therefore I put the Soundtraxx LC decoder into the socket and tested it only on a programming track.  It didn't respond with the decoder plug in either orientation.

I just snipped off the plug and hardwired the loco and all is well.....except

This Soundtraxx LC has a problem with it's sound.  It is very very low.  There must be a bad segment of the decoder.  I tested it with more than one speaker in enclosures and switching out capacitors and all the necessary tests to determine if it was my install.

I reset the CVS.  I can tell the decoder is responding somewhat because the tiny sound increases a tiny bit when I program the volume to maximum.  But I mean this is unusable the way it is for sound.

Since I have had the decoder around for so long and cut off the plug, I guess I will just leave it as it as a motor/lights decoder and move on.  I don't want to sink more money in a repair.

Is iT me, or has anyone had this sound problem with the LCs?

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Posted by Bapou on Friday, April 18, 2008 10:15 AM
Pretty much all Soundtraxx decoders besides the Tsunami's are very quite.
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Posted by Gerome on Friday, April 18, 2008 10:24 AM

 Bapou wrote:
Pretty much all Soundtraxx decoders besides the Tsunami's are very quite.

Thanks.

No, this is not right. 

Since that post, I have installed other Soundtraxx including a Tsunami.  This one is not working.  The fact that there is sound is only discernable when I place my ear almost against the speaker in its enclosure (I know that enclosures are critical).

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