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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:43 PM

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Good luck getting that thing to hook up when the boost comes on.  My Gen 3 with mild mods struggles to keep it planted in 1st or 2nd gear.

My Gen 1 struggles to keep it planted in lockout 4th if you're injudicious.  I know somebody whose son did a 720 in the middle of Palm Springs when he got caught in a rain shower with the 'top' and curtains off... 

Hennessey Venom was already over the top for that car.  I was 6' and essentially needed a full-face cycle helmet to drive the thing anywhere over 120mph.

But of course what this brings to mind, now that Cosby is out of jail, was the poster child for all hookup-challenged cars, the Super Snake.  That had a side-oiler 427 with a couple of Paxton blowers feeding a couple of ginormous 4-barrel carbs, and had no low-end throttle sensitivity at all.  It ran beautifully when you got it up to reasonable speed, but that presumed you could get it rolling -- I don't remember if Cosby got it completely around the block but he gave the car back to Shelby the same day it was delivered.  As I recall he had a comedy routine about it...

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:04 PM

Those cars are all impressive enough, but I am more interested in those who do cool stuff with less.

Like the guy a few years ago turning 12 sec 1/4 mile times with a FORD FLEX ECCOBOOST, and all he did was reprogram the ECM. Of course an ECCOBOOST FLEX does 15's off the showroom floor.

Enough money will always go faster. What can you do with less?

At age 19 I restored and rodded this for less than $4,000

Yes, not expensive, not exotic, but fast enough, and lots of fun.

283 built to about 325 hp, 4 speed, 0-60 in 5 sec, 1/4 mile in under 14 sec, top speed 135 mph.

Drove it for 7 years.

The Blonde was a lot of fun too.

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Posted by M636C on Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:59 PM

But of course what this brings to mind, now that Cosby is out of jail, was the poster child for all hookup-challenged cars, the Super Snake.  That had a side-oiler 427 with a couple of Paxton blowers feeding a couple of ginormous 4-barrel carbs, and had no low-end throttle sensitivity at all.  It ran beautifully when you got it up to reasonable speed, but that presumed you could get it rolling -- I don't remember if Cosby got it completely around the block but he gave the car back to Shelby the same day it was delivered.  As I recall he had a comedy routine about it...

I remember the comedy sketch...

Cosby thought the car was dangerous and the sketch ended with Cosby instructing Shelby to deliver the car to Governor Wallace of Alabama....

Peter

 
 
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Posted by PM Railfan on Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:17 PM

Off Topic

Did someone mention 'horsepower'?

 

A 3000hp Dodge? Youll need it and more to catch one of these....

 

 

Sheldon:

"And the blonde was fun too." Laugh Laugh   

 

 

PMR

   

PS: as for the movie..... eh. Yawn. Stretch. Crickets.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, July 16, 2021 8:05 AM

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I would suppose that if they said 3,000 horsepower, most of the viewing public would not believe it. I mean, that is only 10 Ford Mustangs... a locomotive must be more powerful than 10 Ford Mustangs.

There was a Ford commercial in the 1960s that worked this the other way.  They showed the car pulling THREE BOXCARS -- man, if it'll pull that, think how much trailer it can manage!  (I believe more recently they repeated the ad idea with a pickup pulling 35 or 40 cars -- shades of the Decapod and the coal cars!)

Of course the best of these was the Toyota photo op with their truck pulling the whole million-pound Space Shuttle.  Strange they don't seem to have advertised the hell out of that -- perhaps they did.

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Posted by Tin Can II on Friday, July 16, 2021 8:37 AM

My takeaway from "Unstoppable" was that the engineer/conductor were having normal conversations in a locomotive cab while in Run 8 with the windows open.  The sideways wheelie thing was not believeable, but one chalks that up to action enhancement.

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, July 16, 2021 10:31 AM

Overmod
Of course the best of these was the Toyota photo op with their truck pulling the whole million-pound Space Shuttle.  Strange they don't seem to have advertised the hell out of that -- perhaps they did.

They did a little, but Chevy beat them to that idea decades earlier (And with a better truck, IMO):

https://youtu.be/Y1-gHqov5w8

 

 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, July 16, 2021 11:58 AM

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They did a little, but Chevy beat them to that idea decades earlier

Thanks -- I hadn't seen that one!  (And it is a legitimate use of the 4WD and full weight in the bed for traction... in those days they mentioned it up front instead of with fast-talking lawyerese or invisible fine print).

(Of course, I suspect the 350 is already 'overkill' compared to what's in the towmotors that pulled 747s regularly... but it still makes you impressed.)

Of course for 350 truck-block bragging rights, we proposed two of them running on natural gas to do all the heating and cooling for Patterns, in Delaware... Wink

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Posted by Ringo58 on Friday, July 16, 2021 12:24 PM

PM Railfan

Off Topic

Did someone mention 'horsepower'?

 

A 3000hp Dodge? Youll need it and more to catch one of these....

 

 

Sheldon:

"And the blonde was fun too." Laugh Laugh   

 

 

PMR

   

PS: as for the movie..... eh. Yawn. Stretch. Crickets.

 

if thats yours, thats a beautiful car! My buddy had a '85 GN and a '87 T-type and those were a blast to go on rides in. The T-type would chirp all gears and pulled like a freight train. 

 

Okay back on topic to unstoppable, I actually really enjoyed the movie. If you could over look some of the stuff, the behind the scenes on the SD-40s wrecking is pretty cool. 

https://youtu.be/vOzRQ9eP-s4

 

This is shooting the scene where the train almost tips off the tracks 

https://youtu.be/PFrIH0X8J6o

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, July 16, 2021 12:49 PM

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My buddy had a '85 GN and a '87 T-type and those were a blast to go on rides in.

A friend had a Syclone, which used that turbo V6 engine in an AWD chassis -- and was tuned correctly: it was supposedly the fastest car in the world at that time between 50 and 70mph -- which it did like pinching a wet watermelon seed.

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Posted by Ringo58 on Friday, July 16, 2021 1:37 PM

Overmod

 

 
Ringo58
My buddy had a '85 GN and a '87 T-type and those were a blast to go on rides in.

 

A friend had a Syclone, which used that turbo V6 engine in an AWD chassis -- and was tuned correctly: it was supposedly the fastest car in the world at that time between 50 and 70mph -- which it did like pinching a wet watermelon seed.

 

 

Id love me a Syclone or Typhoon

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Posted by CSX Robert on Friday, July 16, 2021 5:13 PM

Overmod
Of course the best of these was the Toyota photo op with their truck pulling the whole million-pound Space Shuttle.  Strange they don't seem to have advertised the hell out of that -- perhaps they did

The Space Shuttle is "only" 172,000 (dry) to 240,000 lbs, and it was probably dry.

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Posted by NittanyLion on Friday, July 16, 2021 7:59 PM

CSX Robert
The Space Shuttle is "only" 172,000 (dry) to 240,000 lbs, and it was probably dry.

It is way under that weight.  The hull is basically an empty shell at this point.  I'm not even sure it has a flight deck right now.  I know they pulled the engines and OMS pods out, which is most of the weight.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, July 16, 2021 8:05 PM

Toyota billed it as a million pounds -- makes a better story for the advertisers and the press.

For a legitimate example of a light truck doing that sort of thing:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=13hBEX0ANVk

 

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, July 16, 2021 8:10 PM

Overmod
For a legitimate example of a light truck doing that sort of thing:

Only had to stop twice for a new transmission. 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, July 16, 2021 8:31 PM

I was curious how could there possibly be more to say on this topic?  It's a thought that I have more and more about threads on this forum.

It's now a car thread.  I get it now.

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, July 16, 2021 8:39 PM

And now it's a thread about thread direction.  

 

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Posted by tstage on Friday, July 16, 2021 8:54 PM

I think we've talked this one through, fellas.  Let's get back to trains & MRRing...Thanks.

Tom

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Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.

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