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Locomotives for branch line service 1940s

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Posted by angelob6660 on Monday, February 1, 2021 12:57 PM

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I decided on this track plan (by one of the forum members) when searching a possible branch line. MapLeft side of the mill building will be a row of houses 3-4. The river will be replaced with a road maybe a branch line bridge to the business I decided to keep. The engine house and tunnel will not around.

The passenger cars were probably to much but I thought of modeling the war traffic. The length of cars will 80' long. The only rail traffic will be warehouse and something on the other side. 

I acquired roughly 18 cars mostly steel boxcars, sheathed single and double, tank car, 2 reefers, 1NW covered hopper, 1PRR hopper. Missing two cabooses a gondola and flatcar, plus coaches all of these are era accurate.

Amusing the rail traffic and the lifestyle for this town /branch line how long would it survive before being abandoned? Before the town uses the bus and semi trucks. 

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Posted by angelob6660 on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 7:15 AM

After thinking some more. There are a few details. On the left side was going to be a freight yard with 0-6-0 or 0-8-0 that matched the MILW beer line and the Rice Harbor train sheds with Steven Otte's scratch built water tower from a magazine years back.

I decided not to; to focus on one or two locomotives instead of 3 or 4.

The branch was a very busy place with a double track mainline, yard that might served another town or two before connecting back to the mainline. That was one reasons why the passenger train was 4 cars long. The other reason I wanted during wartime more people more revenue. During the war I can see a RPO/ Baggage with 2 coaches and post war a mix train instead of separate rail traffic.

Maybe I'll post a drawing of the track plan inspiring the one on top.

 

Kevin- I like the idea of brass locomotives, their not really in my price range.

PM and Wayne- the amount of passenger cars might be to much after the war. In '46 I'll go baggage car and coach or 60' combine.

 

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Posted by snjroy on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:14 AM

Nice plan. The 60' cars would look better on that layout IMHO. If you go with 80', make sure that they clear those tunnel entries and other scenery items before gluing things down...

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Thursday, February 4, 2021 3:26 PM

My home layout is The Nittany Central, a mash up of the Bellefonte Central and East Broad Top, set in the mid-1950's. Diselization is just around the corner. BC bought a couple of surplus PRR H9s 2-8-0's to do everything. They hauled the mixed to State College, switched the yard and interchange with the lordly Pennsy and switched "The Gyp" (National Gypsum's huge plant). 

https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/535-bellefonte-central-railroad

https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php/tpm/2-uncategorised/538-on-location-coleville-bcrr

Bellefonte it self was quite an opeartion. In addotion to being the terminal of the BC, it was the west end of the Lewisburg & Tyrone (PRR)

https://www.west2k.com/pastations/centre.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewisburg_and_Tyrone_Railroad

Which actually terminated a mile or so west at Milesburg on the PRR Bald Eagle Branch (Tyrone to Lock Haven)

https://www.springcreekwatershedatlas.org/post/2020/07/25/railroads-of-the-spring-creek-watershed

The PRR operated the L&T primarily with Consolidations (H6, then H8-H9-H10) and even Atlantics (E2's) when the line still had a seperate passenger train instead of a mixed. The Bald Eagle Branch was a cutoff that hosted the big stuff - K2's, K4's, the H classes, L1's, I1's, even M1 4-8-2's. Altoona Shops would often send overhauled locos on a break in run up to Lock Haven and back, so you could get jusy about anything. 

AND, in early days, it had the original Central Railroad of Pennsylvania - a New York Central cat's paw, not the Jersey Central's attempt to avoid taxes. 

It even had its own car works!

Anyway, long story short, a typical loco for a small PRR branch or a short line interchanging with the PRR would be a H6sb

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/prr1850s.jpg

or F3 2-6-0 pre-WW2, then a H9 after

models are available

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lambert-associates-ho-pennsylvania-rr-1568798030

http://www.modelrailroader.net/holoco_h9.php

https://mthtrains.com/80-3241-1

another loco, with a more generic, nonp-PRR look

https://mrr.trains.com/news-reviews/staff-reviews/2012/06/bachmann-ho-scale-2-6-0-mogul

 

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, February 4, 2021 11:13 PM

For anyone wishing to convert Bachmann's HO scale 10-Wheeler into a more modern 10-Wheeler, as was shown in one of my earlier posts, Bowser has 11 of these...

...and two of these.

Despite the different names (the "Old Lady" was used on Varney's Consolidation, and the "Casey Jones" on Varney's 10 Wheeler), both castings were identical.

There's a sorta "how-to" on that conversion, which can be found HERE, with lots of photos, if anybody's interested.

Wayne

 

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Posted by Autonerd on Friday, February 5, 2021 9:30 PM

I can heartily endorse Bachmann's Sound Value 2-6-0 Mogul:

https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=258_966_1056_1057

I got one in NYC paint from TrainWorld for $99 (just looked and they still have them at the same price). Per one of the Stauffer/May books (which is back at the train club, alas) it's a reasonable stand-in for one of the E-class Moguls built by Schenectady (later Alco) just after the turn of the century.

It's a nicely detailed model with only a bit of a wobble, and the sound is great. It doesn't pull very much, but I use it for a tourist train (two underweight Bachmann excursion cars and a standard-weight gondola with plastic benches, all populated by HO scale people) and it'll happily run those (and maybe a couple cars more) up our 2.5% without breaking a sweat.

I think it's a great little locomotive, and for a hundred bucks??? You can't beat that deal. Get three, change the numbers, and boom, you're set.

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Posted by Autonerd on Friday, February 5, 2021 9:34 PM

Oh, and it's worth adding that (if memory serves me correctly) some of those E-class Moguls lasted right up until the end of steam. They quickly got displaced by larger power and were shuffled off to light-rail branch lines where they ran forever. This 1940 roster shows plenty of Moguls and Ten Wheelers still on the books:

https://www.railarchive.net/nyccollection/nyc_roster_rrmag.pdf

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, February 5, 2021 11:09 PM

angelob6660
Kevin- I like the idea of brass locomotives, their not really in my price range.

You might be surprised. There are some really nice looking good runners that can be had for around $200.00 out there. 

If you want a specific desirable model, the prices can skyrocket.

-Kevin

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Posted by angelob6660 on Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:25 PM

On the top left side of the layout replacing the mill building. There will be 3-4 houses, so my question is. What actual year 1910-30s possibility newer style of houses do I get? And does Walthers houses fit this category or get something else entirely?

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:00 PM

angelob6660

On the top left side of the layout replacing the mill building. There will be 3-4 houses, so my question is. What actual year 1910-30s possibility newer style of houses do I get? And does Walthers houses fit this category or get something else entirely?

 

 
Well of course the Walthers "Postwar Prefab" and "Modern Sectional" houses wouldn't work; neither would the Ranch or Split-Level. The others - "Company House", "Cape Cod", "Aunt Lucy's", "Two-Story" houses, along with the Bungalows and "Farm" houses, should be fine. 
 
 
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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 8:54 PM

angelob6660
....There will be 3-4 houses, so my question is. What actual year 1910-30s possibility newer style of houses do I get?...

City Classics

makes a nice little "Railroad Street Company House", available as a single structure or as a three-pack.
They can be built all alike or you can customise them a bit, too, either with added (or removed details) or different paint schemes.  They look good, and don't take up too much valuable layout space, either.

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Posted by angelob6660 on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:55 AM

Those are great selection to choose also. Would LaserArt Structures fit too because they look like it?

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Posted by dstarr on Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:31 AM

Back in the late 1940's, after the war,  the Boston and Maine used Moguls to pull the commuter trains which were all open platform, wood, truss rod 60 footers.  Sometimes when the Moguls were all busy we would see a small Pacific on the commuter trains.

Here we have a b-15 Mogul pulling a typical commuter train of the late 1940's.

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Saturday, March 20, 2021 3:03 AM

"On the top left side of the layout replacing the mill building. There will be 3-4 houses, so my question is. What actual year 1910-30s possibility newer style of houses do I get? And does Walthers houses fit this category or get something else entirely?"

The SEARS CRAFTSMAN HOME was the  answer for thousands of American (and probably some Canadian) families. Just wire the funds to Chicago and you get a complete house in a box car(s) on your local team track next week. All the materials are cut to size and predrilled, you get the kegs of bolts and nails, cans of paint, the wallpaper, the stove of your choice, the windows and doors are preassembled, you even get (in some models) indoor plumbing! You just provide the labor!!! (You and your wife recruit your relatives and friends - the men form the labor gangs, the boys are the gofers, the ladies provide the meals and the girls babysit the little ones or assist mom with the cooking)

Brachmann Spectrum HO Scale Sears Early 20th Century Catalog House Kit 88001 for sale online | eBay

More period data - should give you some ideas

Sears Modern Homes - Wikipedia

Sears Kit Homes: How bungalows in a box changed housing - Curbed

ho model of sears craftsman house - Bing images

Sears Homes 1908-1914 (searsarchives.com)

7 Charming Sears Catalog Homes You Can Buy Today - The Close

Particularly if you live in the Midwest, Great Plains, Rocky Mountains or Far West, you may be living in one and not know it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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