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Truck dump ideas, help please
Posted by jcopilot on Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:24 PM

Truck dump - a gradually rising ramp ending at a sheer, straight drop overlooking a track.  A dump truck backs up the ramp and dumps his load off the end into a car sitting on the track below.

I know that truck dumps were used by small, remote coal mines to get their coal on a railroad for delivery and I know of one location where ballast was dumped by trucks into hoppers, but I wonder if any other material was transferred in this fashion.  Do you know of any?

I'd like to see some pictures of truck dumps, coal or other product.  When I search Google for truck dumps, I get photos of dump trucks. Bang Head  Do you have any you could post?

Thanks for any help,

Jeff

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:52 PM

Lots of photos here:

http://www.miningartifacts.org/Mining-Photo-Index.html

You'll have to search for the actual ramps but this might get you started.

Try searching for "coal truck tipple" and see if that helps?

 

https://tinyurl.com/y9j56pr6

 Although not specifically trucks, there's some great photos of the B.C. & G. Ry. Coal tipples here:

http://www.buffalocreekandgauley.com/STRUCTURES/WIDEN/Tipple/Tipple.html

 The Library of Congress is a good starting point, too.

https://www.loc.gov/photos/?q=coal+tipple

 

Hope that helps, Ed

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Posted by mlehman on Friday, January 04, 2019 2:09 AM

Just south of Creede on the Rio Grande's branch to there is a small truck dump. I assume it was used for ore transfer for hard rock mining. I thought there was a kit for it at one point, but I had no luck with coming up with that in a search or for pics of the prototype on the internet.

There is a pic of it on pg. 231of the Colorado Rail Annual no. 14.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, January 04, 2019 2:36 AM

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, January 04, 2019 8:26 AM

I like that one, Bear.  Seems to be just what the OP is talking about.  A flat dump has to be better than trying to back up a ramp.  Even if you have to negotiate a ramp to get to the flat area.

I'd also have a big ole' timber bolted to the end of truck dump, so the driver can nudge his way back to it, without going over the edge.  Blair Line makes one.

http://www.blairline.com/truckdump/

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, January 04, 2019 9:13 AM

For one of my first scratchbuilding projects, I built one of these from plans in Model Railroader.  It was in the style of a two-bent timber trestle, with a wood "abutment".  Neatest of all was a fold-down ramp that extended over the freight car a bit.  I think the truck pushed it down when it backed up.  There were counterweights, I'm sure, though I didn't install them.

I did a search, and it appears the article was:  "Kentucky and Tennessee Coaling Station" in Model Railroder December 1959, p. 47.

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Posted by dknelson on Friday, January 04, 2019 11:00 AM

There is an excellent article in the October 2015 Model Railroader by Ken Kyser about modeling ne of these coal truck dumps.  

I have seen some of these installations but all were derelict and abandoned and weed grown.  One was in an area in Illinois near coal mines so I assume it indeed was used to dump coal from trucks into hoppers.  But one was in Ripon Wisconsin nowhere near any coal deposits.  Perhaps iron ore since there were some iron deposits in the general area, but more likely, a gravel pit.  

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, January 04, 2019 11:04 AM

While they wouldn't always dump directly into a rail car, sugar beets were a load that was dumped, usually into a pit served by a conveyor, which in-turn, loaded the cars - mostly gondolas or hoppers.  I plan on adding a beet loader on the upper level of my layout.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, January 04, 2019 11:41 AM

I found an interesting picture, Googled Dump truck railcar loading, in images, about half way down the page, the truck ends up in the hopper.

It's got copyright on the bottom of the pictures home page, so I won't post, but you can still look.

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Posted by dknelson on Friday, January 04, 2019 5:13 PM

mbinsewi
   I found an interesting picture, Googled Dump truck railcar loading, in images, about half way down the page, the truck ends up in the hopper.

It's got copyright on the bottom of the pictures home page, so I won't post, but you can still look.

Mike.      

I found it.  I have had days like that, or that felt like that.  The link uses a a word that most of us would use (or worse) if it happend to us so I won't post the link either.  According to the caption the truck was loading corn into an open top hopper -- I assume during the grain rush when they use anything with wheels just about. 

The search also showed a Walthers kit (933-4058) for a dump truck unloading kit but of a different sort -- a ramp for the truck then a sort of small housing for the dumped load, and a portable conveyer for transmitting the load to an open top car.

Dave Nelson

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