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Triple Crown/Roadrailer question

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Triple Crown/Roadrailer question
Posted by chatanuga on Saturday, December 8, 2018 12:48 PM

Were Triple Crown roadrailers capable of being pulled in reverse if a couplermate was put on the rear?

At the Crestline terminal when a train was heading east out of the terminal and then had to turn north towards Cleveland, a couplermate was put on the rear for the backup move around the wye to get the train onto the former NYC route.

On my layout, one of my Triple Crown trains heads east from Crestline to Mansfield and then heads south towards Columbus and the terminals in Atlanta and Florida.  Since the train can't just make a right turn to head south, I was thinking that if the roadrailers were pulled in reverse the few miles to Mansfield, the locomotive(s) could pull the train into the yard, runaround to the front of the train, and back around the wye to then head south.  The return train heading back to Crestline would pull past the wye and then back around it into the yard where the locomotive(s) would run around to the rear of the train and pull it in reverse to Crestline.

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Posted by wojosa31 on Saturday, December 8, 2018 2:48 PM

If I correctly recall, Tripple Crown trains mainly had couplermates on the head end to couple to the engine. Amtrak roadrailers always had couplermates on both ends of the roadrailer block.

I would imagine that on routes where operational necessity required coupermates on both ends, they would operate that way, but in general Tripple Crown used coupermates only to couple to the engine.

Shoving a roadrailer train was generally not a recommended practice.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, December 10, 2018 5:39 AM

wojosa31
Shoving a roadrailer train was generally not a recommended practice

Yet,CR did exactly that on a daily bases at Crestline. It was no big deal.

Kevin,Why not use the Crestline yard trackage since the yard is doIuble ended?

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Posted by chatanuga on Monday, December 10, 2018 7:49 PM

BRAKIE

 

 
wojosa31
Shoving a roadrailer train was generally not a recommended practice

 

Yet,CR did exactly that on a daily bases at Crestline. It was no big deal.

Kevin,Why not use the Crestline yard trackage since the yard is doIuble ended?

 

On my layout, the former PRR main (Chicago-Pittsburgh) was spun off to my railroad, which has it's original route on a fictional Cleveland-Mansfield-Columbus route that crosses the former PRR just east of the yard at Mansfield.  In my world, Triple Crown runs trains from Crestline to Toronto (via Cleveland), the Pennsylvania terminals (via Pittsburgh), and the terminals in Atlanta and Florida (via Columbus).  Going east, the trains can go straight east or turn towards Cleveland at the interchange, but there is no southwest wye that would allow the trains to turn south.  Backing the trains between Crestline and Mansfield would be a long reverse move.  That's why I was thinking the trains could be pulled in reverse to Mansfield, the power moved around in the Mansfield yard, and then the train backed around the wye to then head south.  Trains coming north would back around the wye into the yard, run the power around, and then get pulled backwards to Crestline.  Between Mansfield and points south, the trains would be pulled forward like normal.

Kevin

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