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Which RRs painted their Budd (corrugated side) equipment?

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Which RRs painted their Budd (corrugated side) equipment?
Posted by sandusky on Friday, November 16, 2018 7:58 AM

The Lionel/Rivarossi and Tenshodo models nonwithstanding, did anyone actually paint their Budd cars? PRR maybe? 

 

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Posted by jrbernier on Friday, November 16, 2018 8:38 AM

UP had Budd cars. Painted Armour Yellow...

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, November 16, 2018 10:41 AM

UP also had their Budd 10-6's painted in two-tone grey.  I was just considering buying one.

I'm especially fond of UP's Budd RPO cars.  They were mostly stainless, but had a yellow letterboard.

GN and NP painted their dome cars in their standard colors.

(I'll edit this and say that the GN and NP cars were not what you would call "corrugated side" cars, as mentioned in the topic title.  The sides were "semi-smooth".  Same goes for the UP Budd RPO cars.)

 

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Posted by JWhite on Friday, November 16, 2018 12:58 PM

The IC leased Budd domes from the NP during the offseason and painted them in IC colors, then repainted them every year when they went back to the NP.  In 1967 they bought PS and Budd dome cars from the MP and painted them in IC chocolate brown and orange.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, November 16, 2018 1:24 PM

sandusky
PRR maybe?

PRR definitely. Both the "Slab-side" such as the D-85 twin-unit diners used on the Broadway, to the 21 roomette, later converted to coaches, Inn series cars. Also several Budd coaches and diners got the Tuscan paint, some of those in the brief "Fleet Of Modernism" scheme.

 PRR_FOM_Budd by Edmund, on Flickr

Documantation shown in some articles of the PRR Keystone show that Budd officials were rather chagrined at PRR's choice of painting over the shiny stainless but the PRR wanted the cars to "blend-in" better with the rest of the Tuscan fleet.

Just before the Penn-Central merger in 1968, the PRR stripped off the Tuscan paint and went with a simple Toluidine Red Keystone and lettering background.

 IMG_0158_fix_W by Edmund, on Flickr

The NYC had some ACF fluted coaches and combines, likewise painted two-tone gray over the stainless. This was on a very small sampling of cars, though.

The DL&W re-equipped the Phoebe Snow after the War and bought a couple diners and these Tavern-Lounge cars from Budd and painted them to match the gray and Maroon.

 Lackawanna_Tavern by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

 

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, November 16, 2018 3:43 PM

The Wabash and the N&W both had Budd domes.  They were "semi-painted"--stainless but with blue window panel and letterboard.  Definitely NOT the Burlington look.

 

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Posted by wojosa31 on Monday, November 26, 2018 10:17 PM

For that matter, the N&W painted their fleet of Budd 10-6 Sleepers in N&W Red and Black. These cars like the Budd PRR 21 Roomette cars and a small sampling of PRr 10-6 sleepers were slab sided and painted Tuscan red.

On the other hand, the PRR rebuilt one of it's fire damaged Budd 10-6s in SAL service into an 11 double bedroom sleeper, and assigned the Stainless Steel sleeper to the Broadway Limited on alternative days. Railfans complained that the stainless steel "intruder" ruined the "Uniform" appearance of the Broadway.

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Posted by wojosa31 on Monday, November 26, 2018 10:19 PM

Ed, nice job with the stainless steel coach from 21 roomette pullman. Did you use a Walthers car or an alternative?

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:16 AM

Hi, Boris

The 21 Roomette car is an Oriental brass model. I got it to give to my nephew when he bought one of the Ringling cars, the Van Wert Inn. However, the D-85-C & D, twin-unit diner were painted Tuscan, Walthers cars that I stripped and did an Alclad II chrome finish on:

 IMG_0068_fix by Edmund, on Flickr

 IMG_0060_fix by Edmund, on Flickr

 IMG_0070_fix by Edmund, on Flickr

I made several requests to Walthers to produce these cars in plated finish which could have been lettered for late PRR, Penn-Central or Amtrak, same with the Inn series, converted to coaches. Those could be lettered Metra or Ringling Brothers, too. Never heard back from them but it seems they aren't interested.

Thank you for asking,

Regards, Ed

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