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PRR Mixed Trains
Posted by cefinkjr on Thursday, October 25, 2018 6:36 PM

Did the Pennsylvania Railroad run any mixed trains?  If they did, when was the last PRR mixed train run?

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:35 PM

Good question.

I'm aware of at least one that ran on the Rochester and Olean branch after the gas-electric was discontinued in 1937.

Apr. 23, 1937: Rochester & Olean RPO discontinued. 

Apr. 24, 1927 Last run of gas-electric railcar between Rochester and Olean and the Nunda Branch, leaving a single mixed train

http://www.alleganyhistory.org/culture/transportation/railroads/pennsylvania-railroad-co/3139-pennsylvania-rr-passenger-trains-discontinued

 

I believe the mixed train was nixed in 1941. I'll have to dig farther to find out more. My Official guides are buried.

Much of my PRR research material doesn't have an index so looking things up can be time consuming.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Friday, October 26, 2018 12:03 PM

gmpullman
"I believe the mixed train was nixed in 1941."

Do you mean they were outlawed by some government agency (ICC? FRA?) or that PRR decided to stop running them?

According to Wikipedia, "The Canadian National Railway continued with mixed trains on its northern line to Churchill, Manitoba even longer [than CP who dropped their last mixed train in 1979] and this line retains the one remaining mixed train in North America, on the Keewatin Railway's service between The Pas and Pukatawagan using passenger cars leased from Via Rail."  However, the article, mentioning "goods wagons", was obviously written in the UK.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, October 26, 2018 7:15 PM

cefinkjr
Do you mean they were outlawed by some government agency (ICC? FRA?) or that PRR decided to stop running them?

From what I could gather was that the mixed train on the Rochester Branch of the PRR was discontinued some time in 1941.

I have heard of remnants of mixed trains operating into the early 1980s.

Here are some photos of a Georgia Railroad mixed train in the 1982.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiveThumbs.aspx?id=8168

 Some discussion here:

http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/p/219779/2435631.aspx

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by cefinkjr on Friday, October 26, 2018 9:52 PM

gmpullman
 
cefinkjr
Do you mean they were outlawed by some government agency (ICC? FRA?) or that PRR decided to stop running them?

 

From what I could gather was that the mixed train on the Rochester Branch of the PRR was discontinued some time in 1941.

I have heard of remnants of mixed trains operating into the early 1980s.

Here are some photos of a Georgia Railroad mixed train in the 1982.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiveThumbs.aspx?id=8168

 Some discussion here:

http://cs.trains.com/ctr/f/3/p/219779/2435631.aspx

Good Luck, Ed

 
That's good enough for me.
 
I'm imagineering a layout based on PRR's Monongahela Division - Ellsworth and Cokeburg Branches in 1943.  I really doubt that PRR ever ran passenger trains on these branches much less mixed trains.  But my Modelers' License would allow me to run either.  I was just wondering how far out of touch I might be.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, October 26, 2018 10:24 PM

cefinkjr
That's good enough for me.

That's all the reason you need Yes

During the War there were many special situations that came up that were either forgotten or not very well documented.

I can imagine that an old coach could have been pressed into service to take workers to a mine or defense plant.

This happened at the Ravenna Ordinance Plant near Warren Ohio. The B&O ran special trains out of Youngstown and possibly Akron to take workers to the plant. Not mixed trains but on a branch line they certainly could have been.

Since you model the War years you can easily justify a mixed train to expedite war material and workers.

Good Luck, Ed

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