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I thought portholes were for ships???

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Posted by SSW9389 on Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:27 AM

No Stix every single one of those FT Booster units I cited was built with the 5th porthole. You should have said that 37.5 percent of FT Booster units were built with the 5th porthole and that the 5th porthole was added to additional units when they were undrawbarred during rebuilding. There are a number of EMD as-built drawings that show the 5th porthole as original equipment. I got mine from Preston Cook! Don't cite books, cite primary source documents. 

wjstix

 

 
SSW9389
 
wjstix

By the way, only a relative few FT B-units had the fifth porthole on one side for hostler controls. FTs were designed to run in A-B or A-A sets with a drawbar between them. The original design didn't even include doors between the A and B units. Only railroads like ATSF that later got FT B-units with the EMD's makeshift coupler replacing the drawbar would have need of hostler controls.

 

 

This isn't a true statement. EMD's FT booster units with the 5th porthole could be found on the ATSF 165 units, Southern 22 units, D&RGW 6 units, MP 6 units  and SSW 4. units. By my count there were 203 FT boosters with the 5th porthole for hostler use. Cotton Belt rebuilt their six drawbar FT booster units with a 5th porthole in 1955-56 at their Pine Bluff Shops. The calculation is 203 5th porthole booster units out of 541 FT boosters built or 37.5%.

 

 

 
Perhaps I should have said "very few FT B units were delivered with the hostler's fifth porthole"...?? I suspect many of those you note were added later.
 
But as Winston Churchill said, "In the course of my life, I have often had to eat my words, and I must confess that I have always found it a wholesome diet."
Laugh

 
 

COTTON BELT: Runs like a Blue Streak!

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