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Auxiliary Tenders for Steam Locomotives

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Posted by BMMECNYC on Friday, February 10, 2017 2:20 AM

A little bit more about Fuel Tenders, Scaletrains.com makes an aux water tender and aux fuel tender in HO scale.  They are UP prototypes.  Aux fuel tenders really only work for liquid fuels (im not sure how you would move coal from an aux tender to the firebox past the water in the standard tender).

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Posted by cascadenorthernrr on Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:26 PM

I see.

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Posted by Canadian Big Boy on Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:46 AM

This picture is Penzance Saskatchewan 1947. Three CNR ten wheelers, and auxillary water tenders.

 

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:59 PM

Canadian Big Boy

This picture is Penzance Saskatchewan 1947. Three CNR ten wheelers, and auxillary water tenders.

 

 

 

 

May I respectfully suggest it is an all CP Consist.

Mountain Plow being used as drifting snow can set similar to concrete and be walked upon. Kind of snow that can be cut w/ knife to build winter shelter out of snow blocks.

Locomotives coal burners and coal bunkers covered to keep fuel dry and snow blowing into cab from rear thru cab curtains at speed. These are Tank Car conversion water cars. Hand rail on roof to enter/exit plow in motion, or stuck in drift.

A flat land plow's visor would hit deep snow, and raise plow, or get broken. Snow is not always soft and fluffy.

Many CP plows and Spreaders had cast off Steam Locomotive Headlights into Eighties. Replaced as 375 W Locomotive Bulbs no longer made and Diesel sealed beams available and 'Standard'.

Garbage Can Geeps had screw in bulbs, and most changed to sealed beams. A topic in itself.

( I walked across a snow slide in the Mtns. full of sticks and rocks, every piece sharp, the debris field as solid as concrete.

A fall would have meant instant impalement. After 50 feet or so, I walked back to truck side, descended and walked around toe. Have photo, just have to find it. Reason Rotarys had problems re trees, rocks and Mountain Goats or Sheep. )

Small sign w/ two holes, Signal Yellow, by switch points indicates 'Close Clearance' to Trainmen riding car sides, e g Loading Ramp. Post by switch stand to hold Shovel and Switch Broom above snow level. Switch Brooms had a Chisel on top end to break out ice in points. 

From an 'Operating' point of view one can see the Delay when taking water. Say each 'tank' needs 4000 Gallons x 6 spots and filling. Hope water tank not frozen and had 24,000 Gallons in it.

Turning whole consist on Wye would be a thrill, esp if tail too short.

A turntable would be worse, esp if Pit full of snow.

These are 4-6-0s. Heavier locomotive may be prohibited re bridges, turntable length., etc.

 

Thank You.

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, February 16, 2017 5:17 PM

Athearn just announced M-of-W tenders that could easily be "back-dated" to auxiliary water use.

http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH11295

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Posted by Canadian Big Boy on Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:45 PM

NDG, the only reason I said it was the CNR is because the CPR sold the line through Penzance to the CNR before 1920, from what I've read, but I'm no expert!

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Posted by cascadenorthernrr on Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:06 PM

I see.

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:40 PM

Canadian Big Boy

NDG, the only reason I said it was the CNR is because the CPR sold the line through Penzance to the CNR before 1920, from what I've read, but I'm no expert!

 

 

Sorry, did not mean to offend. I was basing photo on owner of equipments shown, and know very little about the location or area.

No expert.

FWIW.

Here is another CP photo w/water cars, in this case, tender tank on flat car behind lead locomotive.

Water cars on work train building Pecten/Drywood Spur to sulphur plants South from Brocket on CP Crowsnest Sub. west of Lethbridge, 1957.

Spur being built for the Diesel Age, and NO water for steam engines en route = water cars.

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cpr_steam/5427.jpg  

Some of LAST Steam use ex Lethbridge, 1959.

Bridge on route old Turntable.

http://www.bigdoer.com/24595/short-subjects/turntable-turned-bridge/

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Posted by Canadian Big Boy on Friday, February 17, 2017 5:03 AM

NDG, nice photos, like the turntable bridge. I get lots of inspiration from old photos! Thanks.

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Posted by cascadenorthernrr on Friday, February 17, 2017 10:31 PM

Yes I agree.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:55 AM

B&O had at least fifteen water tenders, some with a dome like ordinary tank cars and some with larger hatches like the model pictured below:

They were primarily used with their Q-class Mikados. Maybe other classes?

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Posted by cascadenorthernrr on Saturday, February 18, 2017 7:53 PM

Cool!

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Posted by cascadenorthernrr on Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:02 PM

Does anyone remember posting this image? It showed up when I was google image searching and the link attatched leads to my thread here. Under the link it reads "Love this tender!!! CV." hope that helps some.

Image result for vanderbilt tender with doghouse

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Posted by Redore on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM

Missabe used water tenders for their cross range ore drags.  They were modified tank cars.

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