NYC GP40

[Christian H]

Hi,

here is a picture.

I want know what´s about the cylinder on the right side of the nose.

What company makes a detail part inHO?

 

[EmpireStateJR]

I believe it is an Automatic train stop motor / generator.

I cannot find a model source for it at this time.

John R

[dti406]

Christian, it looks like the ATS Generator for the ATS Shoe on the front truck.  This part is available from Custom Finishing #208.

 

Rick J

[EmpireStateJR]

[quote user="EmpireStateJR"]

I believe it is an Automatic train stop motor / generator.

I cannot find a model source for it at this time.

John R

Check notes below on NYC GP40s.

John R

EMD GP40 — 25 units
B-B; 16-645E3 engine; 61:16 gear ratio; 3,000 horsepower; 277,000 pounds operating weight

Road Number	First Number	Second Number	Third Number	Builder Date	Builder Number	Date Retired	Notes
5500	NYC 3010	PC 3010	CR 3010	Dec 1965	30947
5501	NYC 3011	PC 3011	CR 3011	Dec 1965	30948
5502	NYC 3012	PC 3012	CR 3012	Dec 1965	30949
5503	NYC 3013	PC 3013	CR 3013	Dec 1965	30950
5504	NYC 3014	PC 3014	CR 3014	Dec 1965	30951
5505	NYC 3015	PC 3015	CR 3015	Dec 1965	30952
5506	NYC 3016	PC 3016	CR 3016	Dec 1965	30953
5507	NYC 3017	PC 3017	CR 3017	Dec 1965	30954
5508	NYC 3018	PC 3018	CR 3018	Dec 1965	30955
5509	NYC 3019	PC 3019	CR 3019	Dec 1965	30956
5510	NYC 3020	PC 3020	CR 3020	Dec 1965	30957
5511	NYC 3021	PC 3021	CR 3021	Dec 1965	30958
5512	NYC 3022	PC 3022	CR 3022	Dec 1965	30959
5513	NYC 3023	PC 3023	CR 3023	Dec 1965	30960
5514	NYC 3025	PC 3025	CR 3025	Dec 1965	30962	9 Aug 1989	1.
5515	NYC 3026	PC 3026	CR 3026	Dec 1965	30963
5516	NYC 3027	PC 3027	CR 3027	Dec 1965	30964
5517	NYC 3028	PC 3028	CR 3028	Dec 1965	30965
5518	NYC 3029	PC 3029	CR 3029	Dec 1965	30966
5519	NYC 3030	PC 3030	CR 3030	Dec 1965	30967	9 Aug 1989	2.
5520	NYC 3031	PC 3031	CR 3031	Dec 1965	30968
5521	NYC 3032	PC 3032	CR 3032	Dec 1965	30969
5522	NYC 3033	PC 3033	CR 3033	Dec 1965	30970
5523	NYC 3034	PC 3034	CR 3034	Dec 1965	30971	9 Aug 1989	3.
5524	NYC 3035	PC 3035	CR 3035	Dec 1965	30972

General Notes:

a.	Built as New York Central 3010-3035, renumbered to PC 3010-3035 after merger of New York Central and Pennsylvania in 1968 which formed Penn Central. Renumbered to CR 3010-3035 after formation of Conrail in 1976. Returned by CR to lessor/owner in 1980 upon expiration of 15 year lease. The original owner/lessor sold all 25 units (PC 3024 wrecked and retired by PC) to Precision National Corp. in July 1980.
b.	C&NW leased the units from PNC in late 1980 and purchased all but 5502 on 10 March 1981. C&NW 5502, ex CR 3012, was taken into C&NW accounts on 1 July 1981. All 25 units were rebuilt between June and December 1981 at Oelwein shops, using new electrical cabinets and modifications to the throttle and dynamic braking controls.
c.	Equipped with Automatic Train Control and Automatic Train Stop.
d.	Equipped with dynamic braking.
e.	EMD order number 7831.

Notes:

1.	Sold to Helm Financial, reconditioned and leased to UP as UP 886 in December 1989.
2.	Sold to National Railway Equipment Co., Dixmoor, Ill., February 1990, resold to Helm Financial, reconditioned at CN's Montreal shops and leased to UP as UP 882 in February 1990.
3.	Wrecked (roll-over), sold to National Railway Equipment Co., Dixmoor, Ill., February 1990, wreck damage repaired, resold to Helm Financial, reconditioned and leased to UP as UP 871 in December 1989.

EMD GP40 — 13 units
B-B; 16-645E3 engine; 61:16 gear ratio; 3,000 horsepower; 277,000 pounds operating weight

Road Number	First Number	Second Number	Third Number	Builder Date	Builder Number	Date Retired	Notes
5525	NYC 3036	PC 3036	CR 3036	Nov 1965	30973
5526	NYC 3037	PC 3037	CR 3037	Nov 1965	30974
5527	NYC 3038	PC 3038	CR 3038	Nov 1965	30975
5528	NYC 3039	PC 3039	CR 3039	Nov 1965	30976
5529	NYC 3040	PC 3040	CR 3040	Nov 1965	30977
5530	NYC 3041	PC 3041	CR 3041	Nov 1965	30978	9 Aug 1989	1.
5531	NYC 3042	PC 3042	CR 3042	Nov 1965	30979
5532	NYC 3044	PC 3044	CR 3044	Nov 1965	30981
5533	NYC 3045	PC 3045	CR 3045	Nov 1965	30982
5534	NYC 3046	PC 3046	CR 3046	Nov 1965	30983
5535	NYC 3047	PC 3047	CR 3047	Nov 1965	30984
5536	NYC 3048	PC 3048	CR 3048	Dec 1965	30985	9 Aug 1989	2.
5537	NYC 3049	PC 3049	CR 3049	Dec 1965	30986

General Notes:

a.	Built as New York Central 3036-3049, renumbered to PC 3036-3049 after merger of New York Central and Pennsylvania in 1968 which formed Penn Central. Renumbered to CR 3036-3049 after formation of Conrail in 1976. Returned by CR to lessor/owner in 1980 upon expiration of 15 year lease. The original owner/lessor sold all 13 units (PC 3043 wrecked and retired by PC) to Precision National Corp. in July 1980.
b.	C&NW leased the units from PNC in late 1980 and purchased the 13 units in March 1981. All 13 units were rebuilt between June and December 1981 at Oelwein shops.
c.	C&NW 5525, as NYC 3036, was the first production GP40 using EMD's new 645 engine.
d.	Equipped with Automatic Train Control and Automatic Train Stop.
e.	Equipped with dynamic braking.
f.	EMD order number 7851.

Notes:

1.	Sold to Helm Financial, reconditioned at CN's Montreal shops and leased to UP as UP 883 in February 1990.
2.	Wrecked (roll-over), sold to Helm Financial, reconditioned and wreck damage repaired and leased to UP as UP 870 in December 1989.

[cv_acr]

Note also the ATS shoe mentioned by one or two people above (looks like a funky brace below the bearing for the first axle on the front truck).

I do believe these two things are related; pretty sure I've seen detail parts for these from either Details West or Details Associates. Having no particular need for these details as the railroad I model never used any form of ATS, I've not looking into this very closely.

[train18393]

Yes it is Automatic Train Stop equipment. I use the Custom Finishing part mentioned, as well as the shoe on the first axle. I also use the ground mounted inductor that passes the signal to the ATS equipment on the locomotive, along with a small junction box. It makes for interesting wayside details. ATS would apply the air brakes if the engineer passed a signal that indicated stop, and then he had some splanin to do about why he ran a restritive signal aspect. There was an electrical cabinet on some NYC locomotives, such as the one in the same location on the following Pennsy unit. Some NYC units had the other components hidden from view with no ancillary cabinet, and some had the cabinet. They were also applied to steam locomotives, but the pick up shoe was mounted on the tender trucks, with the equipment box usually up by the water hatch. There is a little round gizmo mounted on the frame, directly under the 4 in the unit number, with a flexible cable going down to the shoe that is also part of the ATS.

Paul

Dayton and Mad River RR