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SP black widows F7
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:32 AM
what type of trains did these f7 locos pull ?? freight or passenger ? thanks
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SP black widows F7
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:32 AM
what type of trains did these f7 locos pull ?? freight or passenger ? thanks
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Posted by Sperandeo on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:16 AM
Hello "daylight 98,"

The Southern Pacific's black F-unit paint scheme was originally intended as a freight scheme, and most of the locomotives wearing it were in fregiht service. But since it was the SP, there were many examples of "Black Widow" Fs assigned to passenger trains, in cases with some regularity. Examples include such trains as the "San Joaquin Daylight" and the "Sunset Limited." Road switchers in Black Widow paint also regularly worked local passeger trains like the "Del Monte" and the Peninsula commute service.

All units assigned to passenger trains had to have steam generator equipment. On the Fs, the A units had steam generator controls and the Bs had the steam boilers, but note that not all SP F units were so equipped. On those road switchers with steam generators, the boilers were in the short hoods.

So long,

Andy

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Posted by Sperandeo on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:16 AM
Hello "daylight 98,"

The Southern Pacific's black F-unit paint scheme was originally intended as a freight scheme, and most of the locomotives wearing it were in fregiht service. But since it was the SP, there were many examples of "Black Widow" Fs assigned to passenger trains, in cases with some regularity. Examples include such trains as the "San Joaquin Daylight" and the "Sunset Limited." Road switchers in Black Widow paint also regularly worked local passeger trains like the "Del Monte" and the Peninsula commute service.

All units assigned to passenger trains had to have steam generator equipment. On the Fs, the A units had steam generator controls and the Bs had the steam boilers, but note that not all SP F units were so equipped. On those road switchers with steam generators, the boilers were in the short hoods.

So long,

Andy

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sperandeo

Hello "daylight 98,"

The Southern Pacific's black F-unit paint scheme was originally intended as a freight scheme, and most of the locomotives wearing it were in fregiht service. But since it was the SP, there were many examples of "Black Widow" Fs assigned to passenger trains . . . So long,

Andy

Er, uh . . .
Seems to me I've seen more than one photo of Santa Fe PAs in freight service over the years, Andy. (And in one photo, that warbonnet was disgustingly grimy![:o)])
-- Paul
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sperandeo

Hello "daylight 98,"

The Southern Pacific's black F-unit paint scheme was originally intended as a freight scheme, and most of the locomotives wearing it were in fregiht service. But since it was the SP, there were many examples of "Black Widow" Fs assigned to passenger trains . . . So long,

Andy

Er, uh . . .
Seems to me I've seen more than one photo of Santa Fe PAs in freight service over the years, Andy. (And in one photo, that warbonnet was disgustingly grimy![:o)])
-- Paul
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:52 PM
ok thanks for that
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:52 PM
ok thanks for that

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